Quote (dro94 @ 20 Mar 2023 23:31)
Blair was the best PM since Attlee in terms of domestic policy, no doubt about that IMO. His record on the economy, education, health, and public finances were amazing. I give credit to Scaly for mentioning this years ago when I had the same opinion of Blair as you.
i'm not challenging you personal opinion on blair, i'm just telling you explicitly what i meant when i said "for obvious reasons", when you tried to simplistically portray it as me suggesting you only want to downplay his role because he's british.
Quote (dro94 @ 20 Mar 2023 23:31)
Blair obviously didn't think the intelligence was bs, otherwise he wouldn't have acted on it. That's just a strawman argument you've conjured up because you can't accept he took rational decisions using subpar intelligence.
again, pure speculation. you just claim he would have acted differently if he thought the evidence was bs - while i think that's a rather naive assumption, and not a valid excuse to begin with. you can continue to ignore this, but the fact remains there were plenty of people, plenty of leaders who suspected it at the time - and who drew the right conclusions.
blair is not a moron. he would have been well aware of mi6 leadership's biases and allegiances. i think it's much more likely he (and the loyalists advising him on foreign policy matters) correctly recognised it's flimsy "evidence" at best, but that "accepting" it would give him plausible deniability. i suspect he simply felt he had to follow america's lead, maybe genuinely thinking it would lead to a positive outcome for the iraqi people overall. that doesn't absolve him from the suffering it actually caused though, it doesn't absolve him from making the wrong decision, it doesn't absolve him from the fact it was a crime, regardless of his intentions.
Quote (dro94 @ 20 Mar 2023 23:31)
Sometimes, tinpot dictators don't think entirely rationally. He could have done loads of weird shit, just look at Putin.
i gave you the historical context of why another invasion of iran by saddam was highly unlikely after the gulf war, but it doesn't even matter. it's a hypothetical you exclusively created in order to downplay / rationalise what actually happened. it's irrelevant.