Quote (kusotarre1 @ 17 Mar 2023 23:03)
Not sure what you think you're getting out of silly Ben Shapiro-esque logic games. Russia is at war with America, and the pipeline was arguably much more important for Germany than it was for Russia, anyways.
Sure, Russia could blow up some undersea cables or something to really piss the West off, but why should they sink themselves down to America's level?
Germany, on the other hand, has endless avenues for non-military confrontation over this attack on their infrastructure. They could shut down Ramstein Air Base, they could expel diplomats or recall their own, they could implement sanctions against Blinken, Biden, Nuland, whoever. I know you're getting ready to shoot every one of those ideas down, but it doesn't matter, the point is that Germany has done nothing and will continue to do nothing because, again, Germany is not a sovereign country.
Even forgetting NS entirely, the fact is that America is explicitly hostile to Germany. As Ismay said, the point of NATO is to "keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down", and nothing America has done here suggests this isn't still the American strategic goal for Europe.
And, again I keep repeating myself here: When America demands you to sever economic ties to China sometime in the next few years, all this past year will look like a a minor inconvenience in comparison. NS being popped was the kick in the ass Germany needed to start exercising the muscles needed to resist what's coming, but the only muscles you lot have worked are the ones for making excuses for your actual enemy.
the copium is strong with you, bot. again, there is no proof america was behind it, your conviction is purely based on propaganda, not evidence. i still think it's possible, but i consider the undeniable benefits it had for america to be outweighed by the potential risk such an act of sabotage to an ally's infrastructure would pose.
concerning russia, there's two possible reasons they didn't do shit about it - and none of them is your silly suggestion that they suddenly discovered some kind of conscience or morals (while slaughtering women and children and committing countless war crimes in ukraine, lol):
- either they know america has nothing to do with it because they blew it up themselves
- or because they're cowardly little cucks, who only bully smaller neighbours, but are scared shitless of america - so they just let them blow up their pipeline without any repercussions
i mean, the latter is true anyway - that's why they went out of their way to not just shoot that drone, but down it with risky flight manoeuvres. i could hear them shitting their pants from here, lol.
IF ns2 was indeed america, there will be an according german reaction - as there should. but unlike russia (and you), we don't judge situations based on propaganda and wishful thinking, but rather based on facts and evidence. germany has done very well for itself by exercising restraint and cool-headedness in international affairs, has learned not to carelessly throw its weight around or overreact to rumours and hearsay. only a true simpleton would mistake that for weakness.
This post was edited by fender on Mar 17 2023 05:00pm