Quote (kusotarre1 @ 17 Mar 2023 18:00)
You have to talk about the future of Russia because as it stands now, in the present, Russia is doing fine.
In the future, Germany will still be what it is today. A non-country with no sovereignty, passively watching as America hollows you out by imposing higher gas prices and ripping German industry to shreds.
Talk all you want about China, too, but realize that when it comes time for America to drive a wedge between the Chinese economy and Europe, Germany will do exactly what it's doing right now, which is to do everything Washington tells it to. More than a third of BMW sales are in the Chinese market. Nearly half of Mercedes. Those sales will disappear overnight, and there is nothing Germany can do about it because Germany has no sovereignty.
In what way has Germany "not accepted the destruction" of the Nordstream pipelines? You've done literally nothing about it.
At least when America scuttled France's submarine deal with Australia, France threw a little hissy fit and recalled their ambassador for a little while. All show, but Germany can't even muster that, lmao. Just a completely cowed, broken nation.
America blew up your pipelines, tricked you into sending tanks to get demilitarized in Ukraine, passed the IRA that is designed to poach your industries, and you've done nothing at all about any of it, because Germany is not a sovereign country.
lol, by that "logic", america also blew up YOUR pipeline - and russia didn't do shit about it. so that means russia is america's lap dog as well? your idiotic talking points defeat themselves.
also, nice job making moronic predictions about germany's future while at the same time clutching your pearls about realistic predictions concerning russia's future. you don't even notice it, do you?
if you want to talk present, here's a breakdown: european economies have been hit hard by the war, that much is true. we are still significantly better off than the poor russian people in their economic destitution, their decaying cities, their poor health and infrastructure, their forced sacrifices on ukrainian battlefields... there is a reason that russians who can afford to do so are currently fleeing the country in droves. have you ever reflected upon that?
Quote (Djunior @ 17 Mar 2023 19:00)
If it doesn't matter to NATO at all then the organization would've stayed put (as it should have).
But they didn't, NATO is eager to expand hence the word profit.
If you insist I'll dig up some NATO responses from back when Sweden / Finland said they were thinking of joining ^_^
i know you are slow, i know you want to dodge this because it completely debunks your whole narrative, but let me ask you again:
what do you mean by "profit"? in what way does NATO "profit" from nations joining the alliance?if you weren't an ignorant kremlin NPC, you'd know that NATO doesn't "expand" by asking nations to join - it's the other way around. nations that desire protection from being invaded by murdering russian troops, nations that want freedom and prosperity, rather than economic destitution and dictatorship, choose NATO.
belarus is the perfect example of what happens if you choose russia as your ally: you become the shittiest shithole in europe. a puppet. dictatorship. censorship. oppression. poverty.
This post was edited by fender on Mar 17 2023 12:17pm