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Mar 17 2023 11:00am
Quote (fender @ Mar 17 2023 05:20am)
you could have just told me you simply don't know what words mean. first "abstention", now "military occupation", lol. be that as it may, none of your silly insults change the facts about what pootin's war has done to russia's future:
the sacrificing of your youth on ukrainian battlefields and the massive brain drain russia is currently experiencing spell demographic doom. economically it's even worse. you already started from a significantly shittier place. russian standards of living, infrastructure, life expectancy, and freedoms were already on a level barely resembling an industrialised nation - your future as china's insignificant lap dog will be the ultimate humiliation of russia's pride.

You have to talk about the future of Russia because as it stands now, in the present, Russia is doing fine.

In the future, Germany will still be what it is today. A non-country with no sovereignty, passively watching as America hollows you out by imposing higher gas prices and ripping German industry to shreds.

Talk all you want about China, too, but realize that when it comes time for America to drive a wedge between the Chinese economy and Europe, Germany will do exactly what it's doing right now, which is to do everything Washington tells it to. More than a third of BMW sales are in the Chinese market. Nearly half of Mercedes. Those sales will disappear overnight, and there is nothing Germany can do about it because Germany has no sovereignty.

Quote (fender @ Mar 17 2023 07:47am)
regarding ns2: we didn't "let" anyone blow up a "crucial pipeline", moscow shill. first of all, nothing was flowing to us through it in the first place, and wouldn't have for decades to come - so much for "crucial". secondly, we most definitely did not greenlight its destruction, or accept the destruction as fine. that's just absurd - so much for "let". third of all, the pipeline didn't belong to germany alone. fourth point: we still don't know who actually did it, and if it was indeed the US, it will definitely have some serious ramifications. you're just uncritically regurgitating kremlin propaganda again, you bot.

In what way has Germany "not accepted the destruction" of the Nordstream pipelines? You've done literally nothing about it.

At least when America scuttled France's submarine deal with Australia, France threw a little hissy fit and recalled their ambassador for a little while. All show, but Germany can't even muster that, lmao. Just a completely cowed, broken nation.

America blew up your pipelines, tricked you into sending tanks to get demilitarized in Ukraine, passed the IRA that is designed to poach your industries, and you've done nothing at all about any of it, because Germany is not a sovereign country.
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Mar 17 2023 11:02am
Quote (fender @ Mar 17 2023 01:57pm)
"no longer a threat" he says, while russian troops are murdering ukrainians to conquer their country, lol.

russia is still a threat to any of its western and southern neighbours, to any former soviet state and satellite, that isn't part of NATO. they are literally demonstrating that as we speak, lol.


If only someone could have predicted that US foreign policy in Eastern Europe would lead to this.

Russia, the world's largest nuclear power, is still a threat to other countries? Shocking if true, do you have a source?

This is like reading a 6 year olds opinions on geopolitics, good lord Fenderp.
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Mar 17 2023 11:04am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Mar 17 2023 02:00pm)
The crimes are now fully characterized, thus other charges are pending.
Seems you don't have any argument against their decision.


Guess the war is over, the police are on their way to the kremlin to arrest Pootin as we speak.
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Mar 17 2023 11:05am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 17 Mar 2023 18:04)
Guess the war is over, the police are on their way to the kremlin to arrest Pootin as we speak.


What will you say next ? "lalala putin is still free, ahahah you noobs" ... ^_^
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Mar 17 2023 11:08am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Mar 17 2023 01:02pm)
If only someone could have predicted that US foreign policy in Eastern Europe would lead to this.

Russia, the world's largest nuclear power, is still a threat to other countries? Shocking if true, do you have a source?

This is like reading a 6 year olds opinions on geopolitics, good lord Fenderp.


Best course of action for some posters is to completely ignore them. Like the level of discourse is so bad because their grasp/take on the matter is so poorly informed/low iq that you end up dumbing yourself down with these interactions.
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Mar 17 2023 11:09am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Mar 17 2023 02:05pm)
What will you say next ? "lalala putin is still free, ahahah you noobs" ... ^_^


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Mar 17 2023 11:16am
Quote (fender @ Mar 17 2023 04:42pm)
here's the thing: we don't want to raid a siberian farm - not that russia's overhyped army would be any meaningful resistance, getting exposed on the daily, lol.

has nothing to do with "freeloading", that's just a brainless talking point. the nuclear deterrence already exists. no need for another arms race, war shill. have you learned nothing from history, lol?


no, "we" (meaning people like you) want to be kept safe by NATO and big daddy USA, but not provide meaningful contributions

you literally said yourself that you dont support spending more, which is breaking a clearly agreed upon goal (2%)

and we clearly dont have the material that was promised in case of an emergency

arent you the big pro alliances guy here NATO shill? how about contributing? oh thats right, you dont even provide value for your own society

so you are not worried about russia because of big daddy USA, but at the same time you are worried enough to support a fight to the last man to push them out of a foreign country we are neither friends nor allies with, got it ^_^

go get some more orders from your TV, npc :rofl:

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Mar 17 2023 11:32am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 17 2023 02:08pm)
Best course of action for some posters is to completely ignore them. Like the level of discourse is so bad because their grasp/take on the matter is so poorly informed/low iq that you end up dumbing yourself down with these interactions.


You are right, it certainly isn't productive speaking to certain posters. I'm just feeding the troll, but in my defense it is really tempting sometimes :P
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Mar 17 2023 11:42am
Quote (fender @ Mar 17 2023 05:57pm)
"no longer a threat" he says, while russian troops are murdering ukrainians to conquer their country, lol.

russia is still a threat to any of its western and southern neighbours, to any former soviet state and satellite, that isn't part of NATO. they are literally demonstrating that as we speak, lol.


I'll put it in the right order so a slow person like yourself can keep up with this:

USSR fell apart, military collapsed --> NATO said gg lets profit --> round after round of expansion --> Russia says enough is enough

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Mar 17 2023 11:54am
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 17 Mar 2023 18:16)
no, "we" (meaning people like you) want to be kept safe by NATO and big daddy USA, but not provide meaningful contributions

you literally said yourself that you dont support spending more, which is breaking a clearly agreed upon goal (2%)

and we clearly dont have the material that was promised in case of an emergency

arent you the big pro alliances guy here NATO shill? how about contributing? oh thats right, you dont even provide value for your own society

so you are not worried about russia because of big daddy USA, but at the same time you are worried enough to support a fight to the last man to push them out of a foreign country we are neither friends nor allies with, got it ^_^

go get some more orders from your TV, npc :rofl:


ampootin, the arms race and war proponent doesn't realise their talking points / orders are what's perpetuated on legacy media, while my let's not fall for that bs again stance is highly unpopular, lol.

Quote (Djunior @ 17 Mar 2023 18:42)
I'll put it in the right order so a slow person like yourself can keep up with this:

USSR fell apart, military collapsed --> NATO said gg lets profit --> round after round of expansion --> Russia says enough is enough


how does NATO "profit" from nations asking to join it? define "profit". you have those simplistic ideas in your otherwise empty head that make absolutely no sense whatsoever if you just think about them for two seconds. russia murdering innocent people to conquer the country is not saying "enough" - it's saying "more".

pootin's war proves that NATO is necessary, and justifies anyone who joined it or aspires to do so. no one wants to be russia's next target - all they bring is death and destruction. NATO means freedom and prosperity. every country that joined experienced a significant increase of both, while russia remained a dirt poor shithole.
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