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Mar 17 2023 10:26am
Quote (fender @ Mar 17 2023 04:28pm)
i know you can't read very well, but at this point even a slow person like you should have noticed that i never denied the fact that pootin's war has hurt the entire world economy, and europe in particular. i have said from early on that america and china are the greatest beneficiaries, and europe the biggest losers (after ukraine and russia of course) of this conflict. but cheering for russia murdering and conquering ukraine would not change that.

so what is your deal here, constantly gloating over the misery that this war caused in germany, you ghoul? why are you happy about poor people suffering? do you even realise how pathetic and disgusting that is?

also, it doesn't make russia a "winner" by any definition. by any available standard, the russian people were already significant poorer, much unhealthier, much less free to begin with - and pootin's war will undeniably worsen their economic situation. the fact that much wealthier and healthier economies are also impacted negatively does not change that. so why are you cheering for the guy who is responsible for all of this? are you getting paid for doing so, or are you just a hateful individual?

concerning our military budget: i can only hope not a single cent will be spent. it's not needed. russia's conventional forces are not a threat to germany. we're in NATO. russia can't and won't do shit. no need to buy more tanks and planes, we have enough as is. unfortunately, our politicians aren't wise to that, and much money will be spent on war equipment - doesn't mean i support that though.


Perhaps it'd be better to stop expanding East, like I have suggested from the very beginning. Apparently you're the one that's slow and can't read very well.

How's that gloating and calling Russia the winner when NATO has been able to expand round after round without consequences, NATO clearly won (up to the point where they pushed it too far)

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Mar 17 2023 10:28am
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latvia

LATVIA Definitely concerned by Putin's invasion/agression.


Hundreds of cars confiscated from drunk drivers to be supplied to Ukraine's military and hospitals

https://www.businessinsider.com/latvia-sending-cars-confiscated-from-drunk-drivers-support-ukraine-2023-3

The cars will be delivered to the Ukrainian Ministry of Defence army units, the Vinnitsa Regional Clinical Hospital, and the Kupyansk Council Territorial Medical Association, according to a government statement.

That's pretty much GG ;)


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Also....
International Criminal Court issues arrest warrant for Vladimir Putin
A warrant was also issued against Maria Lvova-Belova, Presidential Commissioner for Children's Rights in Russia.

I don't see how it's possible to defend Putin's cause now ... Without some kind of self-humiliation.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Mar 17 2023 10:33am
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Mar 17 2023 10:41am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Mar 17 2023 01:28pm)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latvia

LATVIA Definitely concerned by Putin's invasion/agression.


Hundreds of cars confiscated from drunk drivers to be supplied to Ukraine's military and hospitals

https://www.businessinsider.com/latvia-sending-cars-confiscated-from-drunk-drivers-support-ukraine-2023-3




So Russia is allowed to target all civilian vehicles now right? Since the military is using them?
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Mar 17 2023 10:41am
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Perhaps it'd be better to stop expanding East, like I have suggested from the very beginning. Apparently you're the one that's slow and can't read very well.

How's that gloating and calling Russia the winner when NATO has been able to expand round after round without consequences, NATO clearly won (up to the point where they pushed it too far)


that makes no logical sense. the opposite is the case: more eastern nations will want to join NATO now, because it's obviously the only thing that prevents russia from invading whenever they feel like it. that's why all those former warsaw bloc nations asked NATO to join. pootin is NATO's best salesman. even long standing sceptics like sweden and finland were convinced by him.

that said, in 2022, when russia invaded, ukraine had no path to join NATO any time soon, so suggesting they "pushed it too far" and russia's war was to prevent ukraine's imminent NATO membership is nothing but kremlin propaganda. but even a slow customer like you knows that by now - you just can't adapt to it because no one has given you a talking point to reply to that yet. poor bot...
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Mar 17 2023 10:47am
Quote (fender @ Mar 17 2023 01:41pm)
that makes no logical sense. the opposite is the case: more eastern nations will want to join NATO now, because it's obviously the only thing that prevents russia from invading whenever they feel like it. that's why all those former warsaw bloc nations asked NATO to join. pootin is NATO's best salesman. even long standing sceptics like sweden and finland were convinced by him.

that said, in 2022, when russia invaded, ukraine had no path to join NATO any time soon, so suggesting they "pushed it too far" and russia's war was to prevent ukraine's imminent NATO membership is nothing but kremlin propaganda. but even a slow customer like you knows that by now - you just can't adapt to it because no one has given you a talking point to reply to that yet. poor bot...


Wtf does wanting to join have to do with being allowed to join? Russia wanted to join too, how is that application coming along?


And good point about Ukraines imminent NATO membership, it would have been much more logical for Russia to invade the country they perceive as a threat after they are protected under article 5. Lmao you are so bad at this Fender jfc.
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Mar 17 2023 10:47am
Quote (fender @ Mar 17 2023 05:41pm)
that makes no logical sense. the opposite is the case: more eastern nations will want to join NATO now, because it's obviously the only thing that prevents russia from invading whenever they feel like it. that's why all those former warsaw bloc nations asked NATO to join. pootin is NATO's best salesman. even long standing sceptics like sweden and finland were convinced by him.

that said, in 2022, when russia invaded, ukraine had no path to join NATO any time soon, so suggesting they "pushed it too far" and russia's war was to prevent ukraine's imminent NATO membership is nothing but kremlin propaganda. but even a slow customer like you knows that by now - you just can't adapt to it because no one has given you a talking point to reply to that yet. poor bot...


BS and you know it, when the USSR fell apart there was no longer a threat, Russia's military collapsed and deteriorated further while in the mean time NATO expanded, this happened way before the present conflict.

Keep droning
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Mar 17 2023 10:51am
Imagine parroting "Buttt NATO" 24/7 while the Russian president is under International Criminal Court issues arrest warrant

ICC:

"Today, 17 March 2023, Pre-Trial Chamber II of the International Criminal Court issued arrest warrants for two individuals in connection with the situation in Ukraine: Mr. Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin and Ms. Maria Alekseyevna Lvova-Belova" , presidential commissioner for children's rights in Russia, the ICC said in a statement.

They are wanted for "deportation" and "transfer of population (children) from occupied areas of Ukraine"


Who want to defend criminals ?
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Mar 17 2023 10:56am
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Imagine parroting "Buttt NATO" 24/7 while the Russian president is under International Criminal Court issues arrest warrant

ICC:

"Today, 17 March 2023, Pre-Trial Chamber II of the International Criminal Court issued arrest warrants for two individuals in connection with the situation in Ukraine: Mr. Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin and Ms. Maria Alekseyevna Lvova-Belova" , presidential commissioner for children's rights in Russia, the ICC said in a statement.

They are wanted for "deportation" and "transfer of population (children) from occupied areas of Ukraine"


Who want to defend criminals ?


Lmao I'm sure the ICC will have a huge impact.
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Mar 17 2023 10:57am
Quote (Djunior @ 17 Mar 2023 17:47)
BS and you know it, when the USSR fell apart there was no longer a threat, Russia's military collapsed and deteriorated further while in the mean time NATO expanded, this happened way before the present conflict.

Keep droning


"no longer a threat" he says, while russian troops are murdering ukrainians to conquer their country, lol.

russia is still a threat to any of its western and southern neighbours, to any former soviet state and satellite, that isn't part of NATO. they are literally demonstrating that as we speak, lol.
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Mar 17 2023 11:00am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 17 Mar 2023 17:56)
Lmao I'm sure the ICC will have a huge impact.


The crimes are now fully characterized, thus other charges are pending.
Seems you don't have any argument against their decision.
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