Quote (bogie160 @ Jul 29 2021 05:05pm)

We can't keep deconstructing narratives and pretending it doesn't matter. Whether or not protesters were bringing zip ties to abduct congressman/senators is important. Whether or not an officer was murdered is important. And if the officer wasn't murdered, and people continue to pretend that he was, we really have to ask why.



He had a stroke, and the coroner ruled it death by natural causes.

Quote (IceMage @ Jul 29 2021 06:15pm)

I'm not going to get into arguments with Jan. 6th denialists because it's too depressing and frustrating... but I'm pretty sure a day or two after the insurrection, there was an hour long video on YouTube from one of the insurrectionists that included Ashli Babbit being shot, and it shows how unhinged and violent at least part of the mob was. Why people choose to believe silly things about an event you could literally watch on YouTube right now is perplexing to me.

Back in the day if you were a paranoid skeptic, at least you had the excuse that the newspapers were controlled by the globalists or whatever, and you just didn't accept the popular narrative. But today we literally have video of what happened inside, and a decent portion of the country still continues to believe nonsense.

Quote (bogie160 @ Jul 29 2021 06:35pm)

It's a good question. I'm confused as to how we have an officer giving testimony that Sicknick was murdered during the riot. I mean, we have the coroner's report, it's just not true. And yet the Speaker of the House is actively promoting this, completely debunked, conspiracy theory. What the hell is wrong with this country?

Quote (IceMage @ Jul 29 2021 06:43pm)

Using Sicknick's strange death the day after he was assaulted during the insurrection to pivot away from my broader point about people pretending it was mostly peaceful is an interesting choice.

Quote (bogie160 @ Jul 29 2021 06:54pm)

He died of a stroke brought on by natural causes, as per the coroner. In what way is that strange?

It's correct to say that there was a lot of violence on January 6th, which thankfully only claimed the life of one participant, and at the same acknowledge that the vast majority of protesters were not engaged in violent acts.

Quote (Budgeting @ Jul 30 2021 05:54am)

again, you show your ignorance.

there is no such thing as free healthcare. it would be subsidized through taxes. but you just complained against taxation. so, which is it? based on this fundamental lack of understanding of how anything works, i am not inclined to discuss any policy matter with you because you are too much of a dunce. furthermore, i pointed out i am road tripping with my wife and have already given you more time than necessary. feel free to rage respond but tbh, nobody really cares what you have to say anyways lol.

Quote (bogie160 @ Jul 29 2021 06:05pm)

He had a stroke, and the coroner ruled it death by natural causes.

Quote (IceMage @ Jul 29 2021 07:05pm)

You're being obtuse. Obviously it's strange that a middle-aged officer who was assaulted during a violent insurrection at the Capitol happened to die of a stroke the next day. I understand the coroner assessed it was from natural causes... that's the strange part.

https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2020/08/640/320/CNN-Headline-Fiery-2.jpg

Maybe you could think about the absurdity of this popular CNN pic that everyone on the right made fun of and apply it to the current conversation.

Quote (IceMage @ Jul 29 2021 07:05pm)

You're being obtuse. Obviously it's strange that a middle-aged officer who was assaulted during a violent insurrection at the Capitol happened to die of a stroke the next day. I understand the coroner assessed it was from natural causes... that's the strange part.

https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2020/08/640/320/CNN-Headline-Fiery-2.jpg

Maybe you could think about the absurdity of this popular CNN pic that everyone on the right made fun of and apply it to the current conversation.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Jul 29 2021 07:33pm)

Strokes are acute events. Old guy has sex, his heart races, has a stroke. The stroke doesn't happen a day later after he had sex. If the cop was stressed by something at the protest which triggered a stroke you'd probably see the symptoms manifest fairly soon after the act not a day later. Olympics worthy mental gymnastics on display.

Quote (Skinned @ Jul 29 2021 05:36pm)

He's not being obtuse, he is lying to you.



World Star level beat downs can't lead to stroke.

Unless the dude was 70 a stroke isn't natural.