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May 5 2020 08:30am
Quote (thundercock @ May 4 2020 04:34pm)
I think the most telling thing about conservatives is that they don't even CARE about the woman. All they care about is how their side was treated unfairly. Apparently, appearing hypocritical to neanderthals is worse than sexual assault/rape.


One side saw the character assassinations for what they were and called it out only to be scorned as ists, meanwhile the other weaponized and feigned outrage out of expediency. Nothing wrong with wanting consistency.

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One side saw the character assassinations for what they were and called it out only to be scorned as ists, meanwhile the other weaponized and feigned outrage out of expediency. Nothing wrong with wanting consistency.


oh gawd the irony
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May 5 2020 08:41am
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so.. you realize you are doing the EXACT same thing from the other perspective right?

Innocent Republicans---> Leave trump and Kavanaugh alone. Claims are fake and not proven.
Biden---> evidence makes him look bad please EVERYONE crucify him until proven guilty.


I literally said in this thread that no one is saying he is guilty.... but yeah just make shit up to try and prove a point :rolleyes:


My favorite is the leftists claiming this is delegitimizing the #MeToo movement....LOL

This post was edited by fuzzy159 on May 5 2020 08:43am
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I literally said in this thread that no one is saying he is guilty.... but yeah just make shit up to try and prove a point :rolleyes:


not making shit up.. the amount of posts in here trying to add up the "quotes" news articles or lack of them to crucify him. the R clearly wants Biden's character assassinated while defending trumps (25 of these) and accepting the Kav. debacle.
read the thread.
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not making shit up.. the amount of posts in here trying to add up the "quotes" news articles or lack of them to crucify him. the R clearly wants Biden's character assassinated while defending trumps (25 of these) and accepting the Kav. debacle.
read the thread.
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Uh...

How the fuck aren't you making shit up? You claimed I did something when in fact I did the literal opposite LOL....

Way to continue the stereotype of TDS.
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May 5 2020 08:51am
Quote (fuzzy159 @ May 5 2020 07:45am)
Uh...

How the fuck aren't you making shit up? You claimed I did something when in fact I did the literal opposite LOL....

Way to continue the stereotype of TDS.


I didn't say YOU i said read the thread.
lets try for the 3rd time.
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May 5 2020 08:54am
Quote (theCrossbones @ May 5 2020 10:51am)
I didn't say YOU i said read the thread.
lets try for the 3rd time.


Quote (theCrossbones @ May 5 2020 10:20am)
so.. you realize you are doing the EXACT same thing from the other perspective right?

Innocent Republicans---> Leave trump and Kavanaugh alone. Claims are fake and not proven.
Biden---> evidence makes him look bad please EVERYONE crucify him until proven guilty.


Ok my bad I thought you said you when in fact you actually said you. Thank you for correcting me.
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May 5 2020 08:58am
Quote (fuzzy159 @ May 5 2020 07:54am)
Ok my bad I thought you said you when in fact you actually said you. Thank you for correcting me.


meh fair enough.. I meant YOU as in the R side. but you can take it as that, not how it was intended.
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May 5 2020 08:59am
Quote (Thor123422 @ May 4 2020 10:57pm)
Yeah, I stopped because he asked for evidence that it's not possible for Biden to give. He's responded that the Delaware records don't contain personnel files, and why the hell would they? They're at a university, they're not at an HR department. Meanwhile he asked the relevant office to release the relevant records, and there's not much else he can do to "provide evidence".

Honestly, I don't really care about the veracity of these claims. There's nothing thats going to come out after 27 years that will definitively prove it happened. I'm most interested in how Biden handles the accusation, and he has handled it better than I've seen other people in similar circumstances handle it. Far better than Trump or Kavanaugh.


I do care about the veracity of the claims, not because it'll change my vote, but because it's important to hold leaders accountable for their behavior. I don't want to ever even come close to adopting the Trump cult standard for leaders.

On the other hand, you're right. There's only so much evidence that can come out after all these years. This allegation is credible for sure, but there's enough evidence against it and the person who made it that it's essentially a stalemate. If I were a partisan hack, I would relentlessly hammer the inconsistencies, the weirdness of some of the accuser's behavior and statements. But I don't.... just because victims are quirky politically or inconsistent at times doesn't make them entirely illegitimate.

In addition, as you say, it's worth looking at how the accused handles the accusation. Biden has done so with grace and transparency, even if he was initially slow to respond. It's just a small sign of what's to come in a Biden administration. We'll get back to adults running the show, not whiny, incompetent toddlers.

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I do care about the veracity of the claims, not because it'll change my vote, but because it's important to hold leaders accountable for their behavior. I don't want to ever even come close to adopting the Trump cult standard for leaders.

On the other hand, you're right. There's only so much evidence that can come out after all these years. This allegation is credible for sure, but there's enough evidence against it and the person who made it that it's essentially a stalemate. If I were a partisan hack, I would relentlessly hammer the inconsistencies, the weirdness of some of the accuser's behavior and statements. But I don't.... just because victims are quirky politically or inconsistent at times doesn't make them entirely illegitimate.

In addition, as you say, it's worth looking at how the accused handles the accusation. Biden has done so with grace and transparency, even if he was initially slow to respond. It's just a small sign of what's to come in a Biden administration. We'll get back to adults running the show, not whiny, incompetent toddlers.


The one thing that stuck out to me was when he was asked if Tara Reade ever filed a complaint against him and his response was

"I am absolutely positive that no one that I’m aware of ever has been made aware of any complaint, a formal complaint, made by — or a complaint by Tara Reade against me at the time this allegedly happened 27 years ago, or until I announced for pres— well, I guess it was in April or May of this year. I know of no one who’s aware that any complaint was made."

It was a simple yes or no answer and he fumbled his way through a half assed response that made little sense. Why not just straight up deny it and say there was no complaint? His response leaves a backdoor for him to come back and say "I never said there was none I just said i wasn't aware of one" if it does come to light that there was one made. He obviously would have known if there ever was one so why leave it up for interpretation.

This could just be a typical sleepy Joe gaffe where he confused himself I suppose.
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