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#241
Nov 13 2019 09:15pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Nov 13 2019 07:08pm)
what possible domestic law violations would the DOJ investigate? This is all in Ukrainian jurisdiction. And since when would democrats be okay with Trump directing his DoJ to investigate a political rival?


I believe that the FBI works with NABU in Ukraine through the embassy. If there's wrongdoing, it can be addressed accordingly. I don't see anything out of the ordinary and so far, it hasn't been on anyone else's radar at the embassy.

As for the bold, they wouldn't be but that shouldn't matter. There's a right way to do things and a wrong way. What Trump did was absolutely wrong.
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Nov 13 2019 09:31pm
Trump impeachment hearings focus on Ukraine pressure campaign in first day

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment/trump-impeachment-hearings-focus-on-ukraine-pressure-campaign-in-first-day-idUSKBN1XN1BE

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While the hearing turned contentious at times - including sniping between lawmakers - the low-key testimony given by the two witnesses may have fallen short of giving the Democrats the ammunition they need to advance their argument that Trump has committed misdeeds worthy of ousting him from office.


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Republican lawmakers called Taylor’s account hearsay and noted Ukraine’s president has not said he felt pressured by Trump.


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Nunes accused the Democrats of conducting a “carefully orchestrated smear campaign” using “a horrifically one-sided process” and said Democrats, the media and “partisan bureaucrats” were trying to overturn the results of the 2016 election won by Trump.

He hewed to the Republican strategy of arguing Trump did nothing wrong when he asked Ukraine’s new president to investigate Biden, calling it “an impeachment process in search of a crime.”




Let's hope this article gets left up a bit longer than the last one.

/e

Add to this the money trail information brought to us courtesy of Goomshill, in posts #226 and #233, it's becoming even more obvious that this is gonna turn out to be "nothing burger 2.0".









This post was edited by Ghot on Nov 13 2019 09:56pm
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Nov 13 2019 11:40pm
Can someone explain to me how it is a legitimate, nay, sane situation to condemn the Dems for not having the whistle-blower on the stand, while at the exact same time asking your own employees to defy subpoenas for testifying in the exact same scenario?

Is there rational justification for this at all?
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#244
Nov 13 2019 11:56pm
well obviously none of this is sane
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#245
Nov 14 2019 12:11am
Quote (Phaggot @ Nov 13 2019 09:40pm)
Can someone explain to me how it is a legitimate, nay, sane situation to condemn the Dems for not having the whistle-blower on the stand, while at the exact same time asking your own employees to defy subpoenas for testifying in the exact same scenario?

Is there rational justification for this at all?


They're asking the Dems to violate the law while they are violating the law?

Seems pretty consistent to me.
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Nov 14 2019 12:12am
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They're asking the Dems to violate the law while they are violating the law?

Seems pretty consistent to me.


lmfao
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Nov 14 2019 12:47am
Quote (Phaggot @ Nov 14 2019 12:40am)
Can someone explain to me how it is a legitimate, nay, sane situation to condemn the Dems for not having the whistle-blower on the stand, while at the exact same time asking your own employees to defy subpoenas for testifying in the exact same scenario?

Is there rational justification for this at all?




Because in this country, you have the right to face your accuser.
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Nov 14 2019 12:54am
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Because in this country, you have the right to face your accuser.


Whistle-blower is just an informant, and there's no "accuser" anyway since it's an impeachment procedure.
It's completely "legal" and super justified considering your prez-clown is acting like a clunky mob.
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Nov 14 2019 12:57am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Nov 14 2019 01:54am)
Whistle-blower is just an informant, and there's no "accuser" anyway since it's an impeachment procedure.
It's completely "legal" and super justified considering your prez-clown is acting like a clunky mob.




Whistleblower said Trump engaged in quid pro quo. Trump denies this. So, whistleblower is the accuser.

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Nov 14 2019 01:07am
Quote (Ghot @ 14 Nov 2019 07:57)
Whistleblower said Trump engaged in quid pro quo. Trump denies this. So, whistleblower is the accuser.


He said this, then it was confirmed by top diplomats, and you know it. Now we are expecting more people publicly talking about it, confirming it even more, or better: adding new info on the top of that (like the Giuliani BackChannel...)

It's all grilled dude, exposed, and i guess the goal of pro-trump republicans is to drag the attention elsewhere. It's just OVER. QUIT.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Nov 14 2019 01:07am
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