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Mar 13 2023 07:22am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Mar 13 2023 12:47pm)
Douglas macgregor is putin apologist. Will ignore your shitpost.


MacGregor is a legit source, deal with it ^_^

All YOU do is shitposting because you believe in shit like "Putin's unprovoked war in Ukraine.

Ahem *cough



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Mar 13 2023 07:23am
feel free to watch that video i posted above it addresses alot of what has been discussed.
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Mar 13 2023 07:27am
Quote (Djunior @ 13 Mar 2023 14:22)
MacGregor is a legit source, deal with it ^_^

All YOU do is shitposting because you believe in shit like "Putin's unprovoked war in Ukraine.

Ahem *cough

https://i.imgur.com/r5pXxaD.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/bJ4SXNz.jpg

I can explain it to you, but I can’t understand it for you:

At a joint press conference in January 2003, Putin responded to a question about Ukraine. “Ukraine is an independent sovereign state, and it will choose its own path to peace and security”

Source: https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/01/19/putin-russia-ukraine-nato-george-robertson/

==> List of Sovereign States in the World: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states

The invasion of Ukraine may also have violated international agreements that Russia is a party to, including:
The 1975 Helsinki Final Act, in which the USSR promised not to violate the "territorial integrity" of other signees, including through the use of force. Russia and Ukraine were both created as a result of the USSR's breakup.
The 1994 Budapest Memorandum, in which Russia, the United States, and the United Kingdom agreed "to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine."
The Minsk Agreements, which are a pair of ceasefire agreements signed by Russia and Ukraine relating to the conflict between those countries that began in 2014

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_the_2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine



Putin: Soviet collapse a 'genuine tragedy'



U.N Resolution condemning military agression of Ukraine:



Fatality meme:



Quote (ferdia @ 13 Mar 2023 14:23)
feel free to watch that video i posted above ^Djunior it addresses alot of what has been discussed.


I think you should look for serious military blogs instead, geopolitics have been explained out since a while already. This "war" is decisive for the west.

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Quote (ferdia @ Mar 13 2023 02:23pm)
feel free to watch that video i posted above ^Djunior it addresses alot of what has been discussed.


Don't have time for a 2 hour sit right now, anyways I have a pretty good understanding of what happened because it's history and well documented.


Quote (Meanwhile @ Mar 13 2023 02:27pm)
I can explain it to you, but I can’t understand it for you:

At a joint press conference in January 2003, Putin responded to a question about Ukraine. “Ukraine is an independent sovereign state, and it will choose its own path to peace and security”

Source: https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/01/19/putin-russia-ukraine-nato-george-robertson/

==> List of Sovereign States in the World: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states

The invasion of Ukraine may also have violated international agreements that Russia is a party to, including:
The 1975 Helsinki Final Act, in which the USSR promised not to violate the "territorial integrity" of other signees, including through the use of force. Russia and Ukraine were both created as a result of the USSR's breakup.
The 1994 Budapest Memorandum, in which Russia, the United States, and the United Kingdom agreed "to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine."
The Minsk Agreements, which are a pair of ceasefire agreements signed by Russia and Ukraine relating to the conflict between those countries that began in 2014

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_the_2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIH4SpaC2v0

Putin: Soviet collapse a 'genuine tragedy'

https://i.ibb.co/1rFhx1y/image.png

U.N Resolution condemning military agression of Ukraine:

https://i.imgur.com/615iIkD.jpg

Fatality meme:

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/002/419/309/bf6.png



I think you should look for serious military blogs instead, geopolitics have been cleared out since a while already.



You post a situation that has NOTHING to do with the present conflict, as you know. I suggest you stop trash posting.

Secondly you should look at history because history doesn't lie like you do ^_^

NATO kept expanding after the collapse of the USSR (Read: no more danger from the USSR) and now wants Ukraine / Crimea which for Russia is a provocation and they communicated that several times --> cold hard FACTS that cannot be refuted.

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Mar 13 2023 08:02am
Switzerland destroys missile stocks so they cannot be sent to Ukraine and by doing so takes a dump on the "progressive" war mongers.

Switzerland says it's policies are based on commitment to peace, humanitarian law and mediation where possible.

They also say negotiations are needed to end the war, the sooner the better. Well done Switzerland triple AAA country right there :hail:



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Mar 13 2023 08:40am
Quote (Djunior @ Mar 13 2023 01:46pm)
Don't have time for a 2 hour sit right now, anyways I have a pretty good understanding of what happened because it's history and well documented.





You post a situation that has NOTHING to do with the present conflict, as you know. I suggest you stop trash posting.

Secondly you should look at history because history doesn't lie like you do ^_^

NATO kept expanding after the collapse of the USSR (Read: no more danger from the USSR) and now wants Ukraine / Crimea which for Russia is a provocation and they communicated that several times --> cold hard FACTS that cannot be refuted.


it also refutes alot of what meanwhile posted just now btw and supports what i said previously.
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Mar 13 2023 08:57am
Quote (ferdia @ 13 Mar 2023 14:40)
it also refutes alot of what meanwhile posted just now btw and supports what i said previously.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Sachs

Nice cherry pickup btw, not sure if you are finding these "sources" yourself or if someone is "helping" you to find it ;)

But yep "cease fire an peace in ukraine is the solution" which is a now a validated "Provide your wife and children to russians soldiers, they have needs".

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Mar 13 2023 09:20am
Some intersting story around regarding Urkraine to rename "Russia" into "Muscovy"

Can have some sense following this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Duchy_of_Moscow . It also implies a second phase of collapse for the actual "russian federation".
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Quote (Meanwhile @ Mar 13 2023 02:57pm)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Sachs

Nice cherry pickup btw, not sure if you are finding these "sources" yourself or if someone is "helping" you to find it ;)

But yep "cease fire an peace in ukraine is the solution" which is a now a validated "Provide your wife and children to russians soldiers, they have needs".


no, no one referred me to him. i have read and watched quite alow about that man. I would urge you to watch that video I posted. note that i watch and read everything you post!

At some point someone will have to step back. Now from a historical standpoint that was gorbachov. While you can propose that it is Russia and I can propose it is the US in the current conflict is semantics, but someone has to make the first move. without that, if escalation breeds escalation, as was was outlined in that lecture, then the end result is not pretty.

Quote (Meanwhile @ Mar 13 2023 03:20pm)
Some intersting story around regarding Urkraine to rename "Russia" into "Muscovy"

Can have some sense following this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Duchy_of_Moscow . It also implies a second phase of collapse for the actual "russian federation".


here is a source : https://ukrainetoday.org/2023/02/14/zelensky-will-consider-a-petition-to-rename-russia-to-muscovy-gained-more-than-25-thousand-votes/

and it closes with :

"The author believes that the renaming of the name “Russia” to “Muscovy” will launch a wave of information search, along with the search, the historical facts of the creation of the Russian and Ukrainian states will be revealed, and this will lead to the dispelling of the Kremlin myths regarding the historical past of the “great Russian people” for Russians and citizens of other states who considered Ukraine and Russia “the only whole” before the start of a full-scale war of Russia against Ukraine

As OBOZREVATEL reported, the Permanent Representative of Ukraine to the UN, Serhiy Kislitsa, supported the renaming of Russia to Muscovy . The diplomat called for the adoption of the relevant law."

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Mar 13 2023 09:54am
Quote (Djunior @ Mar 13 2023 02:02pm)
Switzerland destroys missile stocks so they cannot be sent to Ukraine and by doing so takes a dump on the "progressive" war mongers.

Switzerland says it's policies are based on commitment to peace, humanitarian law and mediation where possible.

They also say negotiations are needed to end the war, the sooner the better. Well done Switzerland triple AAA country right there :hail:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCB7PBbyLGs


Totally a moral decision.

"Eighty percent of Russia’s commodities are traded through Switzerland, mostly through Zug and the lakeside city of Geneva. Swiss banks manage an estimated $150 billion for Russian clients, according to the country’s banking association. Thirty-two of the oligarchs closest to Mr. Putin have property, bank accounts or businesses in Switzerland, according to Zurich-based transparency group Public Eye."

lol nice virtue signaling mobik
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