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Mar 12 2023 03:06pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 12 2023 09:26pm)
Yeah we were all meant to freeze to death this winter. Gazprom said Europe would be frozen over like a glacier.

It's like there are boats full of Italians and Germans trying to reach the shores of Lebanon every day.
Oh wait...


we paid dearly by shutting down major industrial gas consumers so the npc's can think that we are fine, because their houses stayed warm for like 5 times the price

millions of households are one gas bill away from being bankrupt and multibillion companies are leaving

we totally kicked putins ass B)
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Quote (Meanwhile @ Mar 12 2023 09:48pm)
Found the orginal, wasn't easy: McGregor getting "thanked" by the presentator:

Good Riddance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsQot89HTDc


Checked the date --> 8 months ago.

So he says Russia didn't bomb the nuclear plant (it's clear that they could bomb it at will if they want to).

He says they didn't bomb civilian infrastructure which was right at the time, bombing infrastructure happened after it turned into a full fletched war because of countless escalations.

He says Zelensky is postponing the inevitable which is likely true (we have to see how long this drags on and how it ends).

He says Zelenshy is a puppet which is true because without Western support Ukraine cannot possible continue the war. The war effort is run by NATO using Ukrainians to do the fighting.

So?
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Mar 12 2023 03:15pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Mar 12 2023 09:06pm)
we paid dearly by shutting down major industrial gas consumers so the npc's can think that we are fine, because their houses stayed warm for like 5 times the price

millions of households are one gas bill away from being bankrupt and multibillion companies are leaving

we totally kicked putins ass B)


Our bills doubled. Idk about you. We are still ok.

Merkel did really fuck up with that strategy.
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Quote (Djunior @ 12 Mar 2023 22:06)
Checked the date --> 8 months ago.
So he says Russia didn't bomb the nuclear plant (it's clear that they could bomb it at will if they want to).
He says they didn't bomb civilian infrastructure which was right at the time, bombing infrastructure happened after it turned into a full fletched war because of countless escalations.
He says Zelensky is postponing the inevitable which is likely true (we have to see how long this drags on and how it ends).
He says Zelenshy is a puppet which is true because without Western support Ukraine cannot possible continue the war. The war effort is run by NATO using Ukrainians to do the fighting.
So?


So you do like usual, twisted cherry pick up and asking for answers on your twisted shit.

People who read this topic will watch the video and will do their own opinion.

Quote (Djunior @ 12 Mar 2023 09:28)
the guy is a PhD, wrote 5 books, has a long career in the army and politics, has access to a whole bunch of sources


Quote (Djunior @ 5 Mar 2023 19:29)
Good source, MacGregor has insider knowledge


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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 12 2023 10:15pm)
Our bills doubled. Idk about you. We are still ok.

Merkel did really fuck up with that strategy.


price quintupled for me until the government price cap kicked in, which they pay for with tax money and new debt

its just kicking the can down the road

merkel fucked up by quitting nuclear, thats by far the biggest problem

she and her minions became too friendly with putin, but i did support the decision to get gas directly from russia, extra sources never hurt

but of course our overlords cant have that
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Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Mar 12 2023 09:25pm)
price quintupled for me until the government price cap kicked in, which they pay for with tax money and new debt

its just kicking the can down the road

merkel fucked up by quitting nuclear, thats by far the biggest problem

she and her minions became too friendly with putin, but i did support the decision to get gas directly from russia, extra sources never hurt

but of course our overlords cant have that


5 times? Wtf you doing :D Get a fixed rate tarriff.
Getting gas from Russia makes sense. Getting 60% of gas from Russia, doesn't make sense; Combined with the rest of the strategy.

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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 12 2023 09:15pm)
Our bills doubled. Idk about you. We are still ok.

Merkel did really fuck up with that strategy.


As did the UK government getting rid of energy storage facilities, and the SNP not incentivising north sea oil projects.
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Quote (dro94 @ Mar 12 2023 10:16pm)
As did the UK government getting rid of energy storage facilities, and the SNP not incentivising north sea oil projects.


The UK is far less exposed Russian gas. The bigger picture is people is Western Europe living beyond their means for multiple generations, de-industrializing and not being anywhere near self sufficient.

If Scotland was independent it would be far better off in terms of energy. Scotland is a next exporter of energy. Case and point is Norway and its literal trillion euro sovereign oil fund. Instead Scotland got 2 Iraq wars, Afghanistan and bailed out bankers to the tune of billions of pounds. Thanks London.
I say cast away the blood sucking Scots from the mighty English economy and leave them to their own meagre self governance.
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Mar 12 2023 04:25pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 12 2023 10:55pm)
5 times? Wtf you doing :D Get a fixed rate tarriff.
Getting gas from Russia makes sense. Getting 60% of gas from Russia, doesn't make sense; Combined with the rest of the strategy.


enjoy paying 4x for US LNG, and then losing market share to china/US.

This post was edited by ownyaah on Mar 12 2023 04:26pm
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enjoy paying 4x for US LNG, and then losing market share to china/US.


We can afford it don't worry. But don't tempt us! We might bring some democracy to the next deadbeat gas rich nation.
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