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Jul 16 2020 07:10pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Jul 17 2020 09:36am)
The only crime here is that guy didn't kill more cops

I'm still hung up on the cat violin black kid. Reading that soured my day.


The video will haunt you.
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Jul 17 2020 12:54am
https://thefederalist.com/2020/07/16/im-at-a-loss-for-words-the-unraveling-narrative-behind-the-atlantics-defund-the-police-shooting-tale/
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/07/how-i-became-police-abolitionist/613540/

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The first shooting I witnessed was by a cop. I was 12. He was angry that his cousin skipped a sign-in sheet at my neighborhood recreation center. I was teaching my sister how to shoot free throws when the officer stormed in alongside the court, drew his weapon, and shot the boy in the arm. My sister and I hid in the locker room for hours afterward. The officer was back at work the following week.


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Purnell has led a prolific career, including writing for The New York Times and time at the helm of The Harvard Journal of African American Public Policy. Because of her impressive rise from poverty, she’s been the subject of profiles and has been asked to write more than one personal essay on why she is an activist. Despite this, and despite this memory’s seeming impact on her life, her article in The Atlantic is the first mention it ever earns in her publicly available writings. In fact, it appears to be the first mention of the incident in any publicly available record The Federalist was able to uncover.

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Between 2001 and 2003, there were 23 police responses to the Buder Recreation Center and 38 to the 12th & Park Recreation Center. The nature of the calls cover a range of incidents, from accidents to domestic disputes, from pedestrians in need to suspicious vehicles, from larceny to arson. None of the police responses, however, involved a shooting except perhaps one attempted suicide at the 12th & Park rec center.

“I’m a little bit at a loss for words here because the shooting of a young boy by a cop in a St. Louis rec center, even if it had happened 20 years ago, I feel like that would be in my mind somewhere,” mayoral spokesman Jacob Long, a former reporter, told The Federalist over the phone. “That does not sound remotely familiar, and I’m from here … I was here in 2001, 2002, 2003.”

“You went to the right place to try and verify that incident, the police department,” he added, independently identifying the neighborhood The Federalist identified, based on the article’s description. “The current mayor wasn’t even the mayor at that time.”

“That predates my tenure here but I don’t remember that even as a consumer of local news.” Jeff Roorda, a former police officer, Democratic state representative, and current executive director of the St. Louis Police Officers Association, added in an email.

The Federalist sent two emails to Yoni Applebaum, The Atlantic’s editor of the Ideas section, asking if the magazine fact-checked the claim:

Applebaum did not respond. Purnell also did not respond to a request for corroboration.

In her essay, Purnell used the story of the shooting to ask readers to consider the innocent victims of policing, going on to make the case for abolishing the police. If her ideas had been implemented before her experience, she writes, “I wouldn’t have hid in the locker room for hours because of a police shooting, and maybe my sister would have a better jump shot.”


"oops, I made up my life story"
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Jul 17 2020 10:38am
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Federal law enforcement officers have been using unmarked vehicles to drive around downtown Portland and detain protesters since at least July 14. Personal accounts and multiple videos posted online show the officers driving up to people, detaining individuals with no explanation of why they are being arrested, and driving off. The tactic appears to be another escalation in federal force deployed on Portland city streets, as federal officials and President Donald Trump have said they plan to “quell” nightly protests outside the federal courthouse and Multnomah County Justice Center that have lasted for more than six weeks.
Federal officers have charged at least 13 people with crimes related to the protests so far, while others have been arrested and released, including Pettibone. They also left one demonstrator hospitalized with skull fractures after shooting him in the face with so-called “less lethal” munitions July 11. Officers from the U.S. Marshals Special Operations Group and Customs and Border Protection’s BORTAC, have been sent to Portland to protect federal property during the recent protests against racism and police brutality. But interviews conducted by OPB show officers are also detaining people on Portland streets who aren’t near federal property, nor is it clear that all of the people being arrested have engaged in criminal activity. Demonstrators like O’Shea and Pettibone said they think they were targeted by federal officers for simply wearing black clothing in the area of the demonstration.
LEO’s in camo? Unmarked vehicles? Disappearing people off the street without charge? Detention in something far too close to a police black site? (Ask some folks in Chicago how those work out.) I always knew I missed something not growing up in Santiago.
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Jul 17 2020 10:46am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 16 2020 05:15pm)
4 cops kill somebody with multiple witnesses and video tapes, walk free for weeks and only get charged after massive riots.

Black person shoots a cop, is immediately detained and charged, and never gets a day of freedom after.

Goom: They're the same picture


The first case involves police officers making a lawful arrest on a resisting suspect. The second case is a slam shut case of murder in at least the 2nd degree.

The prosecution did the right thing by getting all of their ducks in a row before charging the officers. As they repeatedly told the public, these things take time.

It's sad that you would take their due diligence as proof that murdering innocent people and torching a city was required for them to act. As if immediate vigilante justice was somehow a legitimate response to the situation.
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Jul 17 2020 12:06pm
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The first case involves police officers making a lawful arrest on a resisting suspect. The second case is a slam shut case of murder in at least the 2nd degree.

The prosecution did the right thing by getting all of their ducks in a row before charging the officers. As they repeatedly told the public, these things take time.

It's sad that you would take their due diligence as proof that murdering innocent people and torching a city was required for them to act. As if immediate vigilante justice was somehow a legitimate response to the situation.


You're naive if you think the DA is just "doing their due diligence" when it comes to prosecuting (or lack thereof) the police.

I 100% agree that we shouldn't jump the gun, capitulate to rioters, etc. However, you need to understand where the anger comes from and it's very clear that hundreds of cities have systematic corruption in their law enforcement.
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Jul 17 2020 02:32pm
the name "defund the police" might be the stupidest thing the left has done in a while.

walking into the election Trump has bungled the covid response so badly, and also the race protests later, that you're in about the best place u can be without going on the attack. Trump made your bed for you.

then u hand him a gift, a "movement" with a dumb name just to get support via twitter hashtags from people already on your side. with the moderate vote looking optimistically get-able for Biden you give Trump something he can scare people with.

"Black lives matter" = "yeah the name is simple, but there's obviously undertones that scare me" to conservatives

"make america great again" = "yeah the name is simple, but there's obviously undertones that scare me" to liberals

"defund the police" = "the name doesnt actually mean what it says, it's just hyperbolic nonsense to get twitter rolling"

fucking shock branding for racial justice lol......
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Jul 17 2020 02:45pm
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/opinion/sunday/floyd-abolish-defund-police.html

is it shock branding, tho?
look at the streets of portland. Nightly news on liberal TV wont broadcast it. They mean it too

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Jul 17 2020 03:50pm
I guess the question that needs to be asked is would people rather have the police ad they are now or not have them at all 🤔

What we have now ain't half bad. All i ever got was speeding tickets.
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Jul 17 2020 03:52pm
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I guess the question that needs to be asked is would people rather have the police ad they are now or not have them at all 🤔

What we have now ain't half bad. All i ever got was speeding tickets.


probably depends what community you live in.
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Jul 17 2020 03:56pm
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probably depends what community you live in.


Regardless of the community, it is certain to have negative public health / safety outcomes. We are seeing the results of a minor police pull-back in liberal cities right now.
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