They were embargoed and that had a lot to so with the starvation. This had to do with the separation of Taiwan etc. The embargo was the primary reason for the starvation. Another is Great Britain diverting food from India to home in WW2 creating artificial famine there. Churchill said something about brown people breeding so fast it doesn't matter.....very cruel.

Dutch Congo another genocidal European episode.

you don't blame mao's communism?

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1057%2Fces.2008.4

Industrialization had a lot to do with it, but that was also to make them un-embargoable. That was traumatizing and they made it so won't happen again anytime soon.

If the West would have helped them instead of hindered them it would have went a lot better and a lot less people would have died there may not have been a starvation at all but with the Embargo and the West working against them it was devastating.

This post was edited by Skinned on Sep 12 2017 05:52am

thats just wrong. yes, the embargos probably contributed to the famine, but their contribution is maybe 5%. there is agreement among historians that the great leap forward was the main and major reason for this famine.

also, it just doesnt make sense to assume that an embargo would have too much of an impact on the nutrition sitation of a largely self-sustaining, agricultural society. farmers being forced to work on construction sites and in factories instead of tilling their fields is a much more logical and convincing explanation.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Sep 12 2017 05:53am

"The embargo was the primary reason for the starvation" is not the expert opinion, reminds me of


blaming the west for communism's mistakes is really delusional

This post was edited by majorblood on Sep 12 2017 05:54am

oh, so now it's the west who is guilty for the great leap forward? it has nothing to do with increasing tensions between the agricultural china and the much more industrialized soviet union at the time? nothing to do with their emerging struggle for leadership of the socialist world?


whatever the topic, you always see the west and white people at fault. I've rarely ever seen someone as self-loathing as you. sorry I have to say this, but you're delusional and beyond hope...

Dutch Congo? I think you mean Belgian Congo.

Belgium Congo in 1885.. The entire population was enslaved and worked till the death by the threat of their limbs being cut off. Cut off hands were also send back to Belgium as proof they needed more supplies, mainly bullets. Expected casualties: 10 mil (half of the population)

Genocides are usually a social blind spots, If you know one caused by the Netherlands, lmk

/e: @Black_X: I'll read a bit on that one later. It does come close the number of total casualties for native Americans.

This post was edited by Knaapie on Sep 12 2017 06:07am