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Mar 12 2023 05:46am
Quote (ferdia @ Mar 12 2023 11:44am)
But Boris did say it.
The US said they would do it. The US were happy it was done. A Prizewinning Journalist scopped how it was done. The US refuses to allow the UN to investigate. Russia is reparing it. Yes, from all that I would be pretty emphatic that the US or their allies did it.


He doesn't say what you insinuated. At all.
Which is the exact issue.

Absolutely wouldn't disagree with what your saying, as long as your not projecting it as the basis to discuss.
Which to be clear, you have been.
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Mar 12 2023 05:47am
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You mean the guy the host is feeding a narrative to?

Hyprocrisy.


You need to read John's wiki page and who he is and what he says about Ukraine even in the early 90s and what he think will happen 25 years back.
Like I said, if you think that the interviewer is feeding a narrative, there is a whole host Western led media that are feeding narratives. But that is just how media works.

You can watch the video I posted which is a Austrian interview with India's Foreign minister which might be more digestible for you current preference or political affiliations since it is not CTGN.
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Mar 12 2023 05:47am
and we have repeatedly posted this video. have you watched it ? will you answer this question? If you have not watched it, will you watch it now ?

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You need to read John's wiki page and who he is and what he says about Ukraine even in the early 90s and what he think will happen 25 years back.
Like I said, if you think that the interviewer is feeding a narrative, there is a whole host Western led media that are feeding narratives. But that is just how media works.

You can watch the video I posted which is a Austrian interview with India's Foreign minister which might be more digestible for you current preference or political affiliations since it is not CTGN.


lol no its the same, he is getting paid to appear.

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Mar 12 2023 05:49am
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and we have repeatedly posted this video. have you watched it ? will you answer this question? If you have not watched it, will you watch it now ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4


I won't debate anything with you until you accept that your assurance in your own beliefs, does not make something a fact.

Why would I enter a discussion where the outcome is already determined?

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lol no its the same, he is getting paid to appear.


for sure. just as he is paid to appear in the US, China and all around the world. he is world renowned.

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I won't debate anything with you until you accept that your assurance in your own beliefs, does not make something a fact.

Why would I enter a discussion where the outcome is already determined?


what I have, is opinions. backed up by evidence. from that i extrapolate my view. I can see this is going nowhere with you.

I am going to piss you off now.

it is a FACT that the USA KNEW Ukraine was a red line for Russia re: Nato enlargement. WE provided evidence to support position.
it is a FACT that minds greater then ours saw this war coming from as far back as 2016. WE provided evidence to support position.
it is a FACT that Boris played an active roll in pushing Ukraine not to negotiate with Russia. WE provided evidence to support position.
it is HIGHLY LIKELY that the US or their allies blew up NS2. We provided extensive circumstantial evidence to support position.

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Mar 12 2023 05:53am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 12 Mar 2023 19:48)
lol no its the same, he is getting paid to appear.


Look I would like to agree with you on this particular issue.
But If I do, I can also say that anyone that appears on the Western Led media is also paid to appear.

But that is not true, there are alot of professors and political analyst that have a different lens in this conflict and I also do agree with them in quite a number of issues.
If you decide that Whatever A Media post is fake, paid , hypocrisy etc etc and whatever B media post which at that particular moment fits your passionate ideologue and what they say is being close to infallible , then perhaps you might be slightly mislead in the end.

This is similar to what some people on the left in the United States that thinkswhatever Fox news post is fake and whatever CNN post is fake due to political affiliations.
I can name you a few instance that even Tucker Carlson can have a very realistic segment . So does Don Lemon.

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Mar 12 2023 05:57am
Quote (ferdia @ Mar 12 2023 11:50am)
for sure. just as he is paid to appear in the US, China and all around the world. he is world renowned.



what I have, is opinions. backed up by evidence. from that i extrapolate my view. I can see this is going nowhere with you.

I am going to piss you off now.

it is a FACT that the USA KNEW Ukraine was a red line for Russia re: Nato enlargement. WE provided evidence to support position.
it is a FACT that minds greater then ours saw this war coming from as far back as 2016. WE provided evidence to support position.
it is a FACT that Boris played an active roll in pushing Ukraine not to negotiate with Russia. WE provided evidence to support position.
it is HIGHLY LIKELY that the US or their allies blew up NS2. We provided extensive circumstantial evidence to support position.


The high court of circumstance and judge Ferdia. Carry on boys, as you were.
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 12 2023 11:57am)
The high court of circumstance and judge Ferdia. Carry on boys, as you were.


you ask questions expecting answers, you are surprised when we answer, not happy with the answer and then deflect.
you refuse to answer simple questions yourself.
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was anything i said there not factual? refute me.
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