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Mar 10 2023 02:39pm
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But anyone with an iq higher than 50, knows the US was 100% involved.


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Mar 10 2023 02:55pm
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You are asking for empirical proof, this is politics not math. The intentions of states aren´t made known, and declassified 50++years, and sometimes they are destroyed and never released.

But anyone with an iq higher than 50, knows the US was 100% involved. Exactly who did what, is speculation.


So you agree? We can't say for certain who is responsible?
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Mar 10 2023 03:07pm
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So you agree? We can't say for certain who is responsible?


i can agree. but on the balance of probablity, as we have repeatedly said, its USA or their allies.

oh but ferdia there is no proof, so gotcha!

:rolleyes:

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Mar 10 2023 03:38pm
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i can agree. but on the balance of probablity, as we have repeatedly said, its USA or their allies.

oh but ferdia there is no proof, so gotcha!

:rolleyes:


Perfect. You were insisting that your view was irrefutable.
Now that your not insisting, there is no gotcha.

You either prove something or you accept it is speculation.
You can't have your cake and eat it with the truth.
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Mar 10 2023 03:42pm
Quote (ferdia @ Mar 10 2023 09:07pm)
i can agree. but on the balance of probablity, as we have repeatedly said, its USA or their allies.

oh but ferdia there is no proof, so gotcha!

:rolleyes:


Is it not reasonable to expect proof?

Hume said,
"A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence"
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Mar 10 2023 03:48pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 10 2023 09:38pm)
Perfect. You were insisting that your view was irrefutable.
Now that your not insisting, there is no gotcha.

You either prove something or you accept it is speculation.
You can't have your cake and eat it with the truth.


your being very pedantic here. you have not given a view at all and are ignoring all of the circumstantial evidence.
even when i provided the video re: boris you did not accept it as evidence when it was straight from his mouth.
biden basically said they would get rid of it and you are ignoring that as hearsay, from a sitting president.

this is all very flimsy on your part to be fair.
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Mar 10 2023 03:54pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 10 2023 09:55pm)
So you agree? We can't say for certain who is responsible?


you cant say for certain i didnt sleep with your mother yesterday. you cant say for certain, i exist. Perhaps you are dreaming.

There is different level of "truths", axioms are involved etc. You aren´t discussing politics anymore by the way, this is philosophy.

Pointless, fruitless discussion, bye bye

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your being very pedantic here. you have not given a view at all and are ignoring all of the circumstantial evidence.
even when i provided the video re: boris you did not accept it as evidence when it was straight from his mouth.
biden basically said they would get rid of it and you are ignoring that as hearsay, from a sitting president.

this is all very flimsy on your part to be fair.


Actually it is the exact same issue of you insinuating that something is a fact or a quote, and then not providing it.

While I accept your right to extrapolate your own view, you are expecting me to accept that as fact.

It is not pedantic to be accurate or expect evidence.

If you can't prove something, don't expect others to believe it

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Mar 10 2023 04:03pm
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Mar 10 2023 04:04pm
Quote (ownyaah @ Mar 10 2023 09:54pm)
you cant say for certain i didnt sleep with your mother yesterday. you cant say for certain, i exist. Perhaps you are dreaming.

There is different level of "truths", axioms are involved etc. You aren´t discussing politics anymore by the way, this is philosophy.

Pointless, fruitless discussion, bye bye


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This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Mar 10 2023 04:04pm
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 10 2023 06:04pm)
Cave dweller :rofl:


Lol aren't you the one always crying about ad hominem attacks?

Or are they appropriate to use when you are butthurt because you don't know what the word evidence means? Lmk very curious what the rules are
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