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Maybe i'm missing something, but how does "Hillary Clinton & the Democrats" collude with Russia in the 2016 election when Putin wanted Trump to win? I must be missing something here...

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“There has been no evidence whatsoever that Donald Trump or the campaign was involved in any kind of collusion to fix the 2016 election. In fact the evidence is the opposite, that Hillary Clinton & the Democrats colluded with the Russians to fix the 2016 election.” @GrahamLedger
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Maybe i'm missing something, but how does "Hillary Clinton & the Democrats" collude with Russia in the 2016 election when Putin wanted Trump to win? I must be missing something here...

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“There has been no evidence whatsoever that Donald Trump or the campaign was involved in any kind of collusion to fix the 2016 election. In fact the evidence is the opposite, that Hillary Clinton & the Democrats colluded with the Russians to fix the 2016 election.” @GrahamLedger
9:22 AM · Aug 9, 2018



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He's right you know


Care to attempt to answer my question? Would be very amusing for me.
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Care to attempt to answer my question? Would be very amusing for me.


no questions please..pay back the scams then we'll talk

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no questions please..pay back the scams then we'll talk


Yeah, figured you wouldn't bother to try, your pea-brain probably isn't capable of formulating a coherent response.
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Aug 9 2018 08:36pm
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Maybe i'm missing something, but how does "Hillary Clinton & the Democrats" collude with Russia in the 2016 election when Putin wanted Trump to win? I must be missing something here...

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“There has been no evidence whatsoever that Donald Trump or the campaign was involved in any kind of collusion to fix the 2016 election. In fact the evidence is the opposite, that Hillary Clinton & the Democrats colluded with the Russians to fix the 2016 election.” @GrahamLedger
9:22 AM · Aug 9, 2018


I laid out the basic argument/suggested sequence of Russian-Cllinton collusion to the best of my knowledge here:

Quote (ThatAlex @ 6 Aug 2018 16:49)
To my best understanding, this is essentially the argument:

Hillary Clinton and the DNC colluded with Russians through a series intermediaries: The DNC paid US attorney Mike Elias of Perkins Coie to hire Fusion GPS (headed by Glenn Simpson) for opposition research into Trump, which was gathered by Christopher Steele (former British MI6 agent who compiled the infamous 'dossier'), who was paying Russian sources for information about Trump. The net result being Clinton/DNC paying Russian sources for dirt on Trump.

Essentially: Clinton/DNC ---> Elias/Perkins Coie ---> Simpson/Fusion GPS ---> Steele ---> Russian sources


When Trump speaks of Russian-Clinton collusion in the 2016 election, I assume the above is the basic framework/argument he is referring to.
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I laid out the basic argument/suggested sequence of Russian-Cllinton collusion to the best of my knowledge here:



When Trump speaks of Russian-Clinton collusion in the 2016 election, I assume the above is the basic framework/argument he is referring to.


my question now would be did the DNC know christopher steele was paying russian sources for information on Trump at the time? If they weren't aware, there's no possible collusion case there IMO... if they were aware, then I suppose there's a slim case there, still kind of a laughable distraction to the real issue.
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Court seals portion of Mueller team’s discussion relevant to ‘ongoing investigation’

The judge presiding over Paul Manafort’s criminal trial has granted a request by special counsel Robert Mueller to seal portions of a sidebar conversation between the judge and attorneys during Richard Gates’ testimony this week.

“Sealing a limited portion of the sidebar conference is necessary because it would reveal substantive evidence pertaining to an ongoing government investigation,” Mueller’s team wrote in the motion to seal portions of the transcript on Thursday.


https://www.thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/401189-court-seals-portion-of-mueller-teams-discussion-relevant-to-ongoing

I wonder that "substantive evidence" is...

This post was edited by ThatAlex on Aug 9 2018 09:55pm
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I remember some tax returns story... Maybe Trump will fall like AlCapone; fiscal fraud :lol:



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