Quote (Goomshill @ 10 Mar 2023 11:28)
NATO tries to steal Ukraine from Russia. Russia seizes it back. That's just a return to status quo ante, or in this hypothetical, not even that- NATO would still be seizing west ukraine
Russia isn't asking for 'more and more', they're asking for what was taken from them. When has Russia actually tried to expand its sphere of influence beyond the soviet era? They're not trying to seize poland or hungary lmao
1) NATO doesnt steal, independent countries ask to join nato because they dont want to live in evil regime, where people are treated like animals (Russia). In fact nato didnt welcome Ukraine, bashed their application, because nato wanted to stay friendly with Russia and Russia promised they leave Ukraine alone. Did Russia live to that promise?
2) Ukraine wasn't Russia for 30 years. Of course for Russia its favorable to go back in time as much as they need. If Ukraine was free for 50 years, they would go back 50 years.
30 years is a human life. You ask 30 years old, 40 years Ukrainians, who dont even remember being part of ussr, to join the Russia. The country they truly hate, the country that tries to genocide them.
3) Ukraine was never really Russia. Russia was occupying them, just like Hitler occupied France during ww2.
4) if we give them Ukraine, they will ask for more. Its best to stop the villain before he gets too strong.