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Mar 9 2023 11:32am
Quote (Ironfister @ 9 Mar 2023 18:23)
Actually its exactly the opposite.
Central Europe countries begged NATO to take them into the Alliance. So that they have some protection from Russia.
Now the Finland is joining nato, and the finish people are like 90% support joining nato.
And capitalism is the best. Maybe its not perfect, but no country has a better system than that.


Maybe to be more precise: social-democracies. Pure capitalism is horrible.
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Mar 9 2023 12:10pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Mar 9 2023 04:27pm)

Cya VladLen :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIH4SpaC2v0


What does that have to do with what I said?
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Mar 9 2023 12:17pm
NATO = North Atlantic Terror Organisation
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Quote (Ironfister @ Mar 9 2023 06:13pm)
I cant imagine how could nato possibly attack Russia.
NATO are democratic liberal countries, with people who spend their time on leisure, how would they go on offensive war with Russia?
Is there even a single country in nato that would like to go to war with Russia?

Its just plain impossible.
You guys live in the Western world, does anyone or anyone you guys know, want or wanted nato to attack Russia?
I dont know such a person in Poland.
Russia is just saying bullshit to find pity excuses for their attrocities.


Yes, democratic liberal countries that never invaded or bombed any countries.
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Quote (ownyaah @ 9 Mar 2023 19:55)
Yes, democratic liberal countries that never invaded or bombed any countries.


Attacking a small terrorist state placed somewhere on the desert is very much different than attacking Russia: a country that has one of the largest armies and nukes to defend themselves.
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Quote (meWW @ 9 Mar 2023 18:05)
It's so sad how the right wing supports Russia blindly. :lol:
I'm right wing and i'm so confused when i see right wings from the first world support Russia :rofl:

The war in Ukraine is actually a textbook wedge issue for the right-wing political spectrum across the Western world. Most mainstream conservatives take a strong anti-Russia (and often times also an explicit pro-Ukraine) stance, while the majority of the alt- or new-right take various shades of pro-Russia positions. But there are exceptions to even that, e.g. Giorgia Meloni's Fratelli d'Italia.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Mar 9 2023 01:10pm
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Quote (Ironfister @ Mar 9 2023 08:03pm)
Attacking a small terrorist state placed somewhere on the desert is very much different than attacking Russia: a country that has one of the largest armies and nukes to defend themselves.


So every nation US invaded were terrorists? Who commited 9/11? Pretty sure it was your saudi friends.

Also you are making a very good case for countries to develop nukes.

Ngl there is few things more funny than nazi poles, considering the Nazis tried to eradicate you.

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Quote (Ironfister @ 10 Mar 2023 03:03)
Attacking a small terrorist state placed somewhere on the desert is very much different than attacking Russia: a country that has one of the largest armies and nukes to defend themselves.


That is the funniest shit I have ever heard to be honest.

Terrorist to who ? I agree with the small state. So NATO is right when they bully and invade smaller states and weaker countries because they deem them " terrorist ".
But when Russia deem them " terrorist " it is a humanity crime ?

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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 9 Mar 2023 20:33)
That is the funniest shit I have ever heard to be honest.

Terrorist to who ? I agree with the small state. So NATO is right when they bully and invade smaller states and weaker countries because they deem them " terrorist ".
But when Russia deem them " terrorist " it is a humanity crime ?


Ironfister was not talking about the moral dimension of foreign interventions, he was talking about how legit Russia's (purported) fears about a NATO attack against them actually are. And in this regard, Western attacks against small countries without nukes are indeed no proof that the same fate awaits Russia.

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Quote (ownyaah @ Mar 9 2023 07:30pm)
So every nation US invaded were terrorists? Who commited 9/11? pretty sure it was your saudi friends.

Also you are making a very good case for countries to develop nukes.


I dont think he said Saudi was his friends. The US has interests in the region so they are "friends" with Saudi by "circumstances". if you overlook the small matters - treatment of women and journalists, funding of terrorist organisations that are in direct conflict with the US, human rights abuses etc etc etc etc, Saudi is pretty ok ? maybe ? maybe not ? no ? Definitely not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamal_Khashoggi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-sponsored_terrorism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia

allies of the US indeed.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 9 2023 01:55pm
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