China gettin triggered, "China’s Xi calls for ‘more quickly elevating’ armed forces" and "2025 made in china" economic domination project.
https://apnews.com/article/china-us-military-taiwan-xi-jinping-14f9c3d8fef26779f017d927aa352eeb

Thus they are losing alot of workforce because of their women don't want to make children at all, their urban employee pop is stagnating and their rural workers force is crushing down.
I am not certain for future, but one possibility in 2025 is that Russia 'won't exist' anymore and China will lose power. Yet these ccp vampires will stay in charge at any price like in NK anyway.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Mar 9 2023 07:18am

He didnt say, but he implied it.
Because if we let Putin do whatever he wants in Ukraine, the only scenario in which Ukraine survives is that Putin doesnt have bad intentions.
Its all logic.

Yes... More likely agree:

Constantly doing time travel, "Nato's fault", and then blaming that the west is bad because it didn't let Putin to make another Holomodor ... Yep it's at least supporting Putin and his regime; no doubt.

It's just another sub-variant ( along with the "negotiations" one) of the usual anti-all speech; criticizing everyone, spitting on the west/democracies, and then getting silenced when asked "ok, all bad; what is your solution then, in practice, step by step ?".

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Mar 9 2023 07:27am

Oh please, Ukraine was already slipping increasingly out of Russia's sphere of influence by its own volition for over a decade before the Euromaidan even happened. Anyone remember the Orange Revolution of 2004 or the failed assassination attempt against pro-Western presidential candidate Viktor Yushchenko?

Likewise - and we've argued over this point many times - the Euromaidan revolution was defintely not entirely astrotured and CIA-led or whatever. How do we know? Well, when Russia invaded in February 2022, it would have been far easier to just roll over and let it happen, like Crimea did back in 2014, than to fight back. Yet fighting back is what most of Ukraine did. Even regions like Kharkiv or Odessia which had voted for the pro-Russian candidate in the 2010 presidential election that you love to cite. How can you have watched the lengths to which Ukraine's people are willing to go to defend their freedom in the face of a brutal invasion, but still cling to the notion that the pro-Western and pro-freedom sentiment at the core of the Euromaidan movement was a mirage or illegitimate or artificial?

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In hindsight, the best course of action would have been to voluntarily do what will be the outcome of this war anyway: split up the country. Ukraine should have gone for an amicable divorce between its pro-Western and pro-Russian provinces back in 2014, similar to the way Czechoslovakia was split up into Czechia and Slovakia.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Mar 9 2023 07:26am

Lets play a game:

Ironfister: ...20% korean components then Korean government shouldnt have the right to ban the export of the finał product.That's just common sense.
Ferdia: No its not common sense. Any country can cease exporting components to whoever it does not like. Because it is a soverign state. You do not appear to understand this concept.

Ironfister: Russia is a medium country
Ferdia: Its the largest country on the planet. You dont know this. You either misspoke, are not knowledgeable, are an idiot, or a combination of all of these.

The above are examples of logical counter arguments by me.

Ironfister - This:



Relates to EU / US / Nato policy over the last 2 decades whereby the west has ever expanded eastwards, and yes, that the coup in 2014 was US backed. This is factual information with the caveat that its complex and Black XistenZ has expounded more about it (which i broadly agree with). It is not the basis upon which you can logically deduce that anyone with this view is Pro Russian or that anyone thinks Putin is a good man. Call us contrarians or fairies. use the right words and terminology because if you dont we will just poke holes in the flawed arguments.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 9 2023 07:30am

How exactly will Russia "not exist anymore" in 2025? At worst, some of the ethnic minority provinces like Chechnya or Dagestan break away. Russia's heartland will stay intact though and they still easily have enough nukes to deter any kind of large-scale military operation against them, be it by NATO, China or anyone else.

For the Russian state to dissolve, you'd need an unfathomable economic collapse, followed by revolutions and chaos. You'd need an economic crisis so bad that people start literally starving in the streets, and that's just not gonna happen in a country with as much farmland and as many natural resources which are in high demand on the world markets. Sure, a bad economic crisis is well within the realm of possibility. But not one so cataclysmic that the economic and social core of the country starts to disintegrate.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Mar 9 2023 07:38am

Ukrainians soldiers listening to a Polish song about drugs sung by a cactus. Enjoy!

Russian federation, fixed. It's one optimist output.

Now you're moving the goalposts. I didn't say Putin is a good man

By the way, Russia used to lease the Sevastopol naval base from Ukraine so they payed Ukraine to use it. No one was using force. Do you understand that or not?



This has been pointed out numerous times. Can you read?

--> NATO / EU / US should not push NATO further East, the Russian have made it very clear multiple times that it's a provocation.

--> The only option is to negotiate and sign a treaty that provides mutual security guarantees, no more false promises that are stepped on further down the line (we fooled them, lol)

Even that is unrealistic, for the reasons I lined out. Russia's heartland is ethnically and culturally homogeneous, it's not gonna break apart over ethnic strife or fierce ideological differences. They are immune from invasion due to their nukes. And they are immune from complete economic collapse due to their revenue from the sale of various natural resources.