you might have seen this in the news, any view ?

Georgia's ruling party has said it will withdraw a controversial draft law, in the face of mass protests and widespread international criticism. Thousands of protesters have taken to the streets in Tbilisi this week in anger as a Russian-style law began its passage through parliament. Under the bill, non-government groups and media would be targeted if they take over 20% of funding from abroad. The main ruling party said it was pulling the bill "unconditionally". Describing itself as a party of government responsible to all members of society, Georgian Dream referred to the need to reduce "confrontation" in society.

Georgia has applied for candidate status of the European Union and sought to join Nato. EU officials had condemned the draft legislation as incompatible with EU values.

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just conscious of information you previously provided to the effect ~ The Foreign Interference (Countermeasures) Act 2021, or Fica, is a statute of the Parliament of Singapore. Enacted in 2021, it seeks to "protect the public interest by counteracting acts of foreign interference". The Bill was introduced on 13 September 2021 and passed on 4 October 2021.

My own view is every country needs some form of rule/register like this to prevent foreign interference (which is what we see rampant throughout the world today) but that it is obviously quite tricky to word and implement, for the obvious reasons (foreign actors would not be happy with it and some governments run the risk of infringing on people civil liberties). Pretty sure Italy does not have such a law. Some one spare a thought for the poor Italians...

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 9 2023 04:11am

It doesnt matter if I'm polish or not. You are welcome to discuss.
Russia is a medium country, that is very bad.
It struggles to conquer Ukraine. So they are a limited threat ATM.
Because of their limited size, limited potential, they are limited risk.
Hovewer if we let them grow, if we let them eat countries around them, if we let them gather 3mln people army, the west world will be in a very serious trouble. Because the west in no way can build such a huge army in a short time.
The west will be on Putin's mercy.
Will the France launch their nukes if Russia attacks Germany conventionally?
Will the USA launch their nukes to defend Germany from Russian tanks?
I don't think so. Nobody wants to start nuclear war, the nuclear apocalypse unless their own security is at serious risk.
There are nuclear weapons in Germany, but they are controlled by USA troops, not by Germany. So Germany are at big risk.
Only UK and France are relatively secure, because they have their own nukes.
But I'm not sure if they have so many of them to actually scare Russians in the event of real war.


So helping Ukraine to defend is actually the best thing NATO/west can possibly do.

again, you think russia will invade poland and germany after ukraine? what for again? remake USSR to build an massive army for what? conquer the whole world and enslave them?

thats what you believe?

I am very sorry I am going to be harsh.

Ironfister's view is presumably held by alot of people in Poland. Russia is the big bad bear and there is simply no explanation other then that Russia wants to take over the world again.

There is no credible reason given for as to why Putin waited so long to invade. He has been in power for 20 years. if he really wanted to reverse time to make Russia great again he would have done it long ago. The mere notion that this conflict was not sought but that the Russians deemed what was happening in Ukraine (Nato etc) as a red line is ever vehemently refuted. Instead we see such comments as "their weapons were breaking down so it was now or never". This is such a stupid comment. Russia did not want this war. The cost and sanctions alone are mental, never mind the social/political consequences. Yes they should not have invaded. Presumably they lacked the ability to insert their own pro-russian government and they (again, presumably) thought they had very few options left.

You have had months to education yourself, read different viewpoints and gain an understanding of some basic concepts. I am not saying Russia is right, I am saying your idea that its Ukraine today Poland and Germany tomorrow is so far removed from reality as to be mind-numbing. An attack on ANY NATO country is an attack on the United States. The US of F****** A Will Not Stand For That. I thought you were pro american ? How are you doubting them?? Yesterday you were not western and today you dont believe in the one country that has your back. Your opinions are quite colorful.

One camp might say that the US will defend its allies
Another camp might say that defending Europe will weaken Russia
All camps will say that an attack (invasion) on Poland is WW3.
If you dont get that go read more.

Finally, if Russia is a medium sized country (11% of the landmass on this planet) then every other country is tiny.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 9 2023 05:09am

also



This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 9 2023 05:26am

"Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Friday he would reverse the collapse of the Soviet Union if he had a chance to alter modern Russian history"
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-election-putin-idUSKCN1GE2TF

Maybe not conquer the whole world, maybe Europe is enough for him, I dont know when exactly he gonna stop.

I spilt milk this morning while making cereal. if i had a chance to go back in time i would like to have not spilt it. but I cant undo history.
I came 2nd in a chess competition and was cheated out of first. I would love to go back in time and sue the organisers. There are alot of things throughout our lives that, if we could, we would like to do over. That does not mean that we can or will. Putin has for decades lamented the breakup of the USSR. Did he do anything about it ? No.

also "Friday" refers to a Friday, 5 years ago.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 9 2023 05:31am

you got it now?

This is just your wishful thinkful, that he meant only past and not the future, when talking about rebuilding USSR.
Putin is getting older, that makes him more corageus.
We don't know who will be next Russia president.
He will maybe be better, or will be the same.

Russia is 11% world landmass, but it's not a landmass that produces tanks, artileries, fights wars. Its humans that do so.
Also Russian landmass is not really in the best climate. Yes there are resources available to them, but that's it.
Russia has only 7,5mln male people aged 20-29.
Demographically they are medium country now. But they can grow, if they conquer all the democraties near them.

This post was edited by Ironfister on Mar 9 2023 05:40am

Well, based on how we treated Russia like an irrelevance, I would imagine the next president of Russia will be alot worse, magically. I say this because people around here dont get the notion of Cause and Effect. Putin just woke up one morning and decided to Invade Ukraine. The next Russian leader is going to wake up one morning and throw his toys (for no reason whatsoever, honest).



NO he did not get it.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 9 2023 05:46am