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Mar 8 2023 01:13pm
Quote (ownyaah @ 8 Mar 2023 17:45)
Can someone translate this for me?
https://i.imgur.com/tyM8oMW.png


From American point of view:
is it better to send ammunition to Ukraine, so they can fight russians, or:
wait idly 3 years, let Putin eat ammunition-less Ukraine and have to send American soldiers and spoil American blood to fight Russians in 2026?

Which one is better for America?
Imagine you are USA president. Which of these 2 path you go?

This post was edited by Ironfister on Mar 8 2023 01:14pm
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Quote (Ironfister @ 8 Mar 2023 19:50)
Krab was already exported to Ukraine last year.
The Koreans were simply dodging the press questions for a year.
So I dont expect any policy change.
Ok, maybe Korea could say "we forbid export because it has Korean parts" but then the Poles would probably look for some other parts provider. Even though Korean parts are great, and are one of the reasons why the Krab is one of the best mobile artileries jn the world.
So Korean position wasnt that strong in case of Krab.
But sending Korean vehicles, tanks is a different story than sending components.
Unfortunately Korea still doesnt allow countries to export their korea-made tanks to Ukraine.
It will be a problem for Ukraine next year, if war will continue.


You should be happy a country that is so far away and has so not much to do with Ukraine, that is not even in NATO atm, is involving itself in the conflict:

South Korea's government approved export licenses for Poland last year. Now they approve it front of the medias.

And from wiki:

- An undisclosed amount of uniforms and personal military gear (which had been earmarked for delivery to the military of Afghanistan) to be sent to Ukraine instead, delivered via NATO.[339][340][341]
- $2.9 billion of Chiron MANPADS (indirectly through Czech Republic; paid by US) in September 2022.[342]
- US$1.6 million worth of non-lethal military and medical supplies such as bulletproof vests, helmets, medical supplies and meals, ready-to-eat (MREs) in March 2022.[343]
- An unspecified amount of cash announced on 8 March.[344][345]
- Bilateral ODA to be increased by designating Ukraine as key 중점협력국 "Priority Cooperation Country" for years 2021–2025.



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Quote (Meanwhile @ 8 Mar 2023 20:15)
You should be happy a country that is so far away and has so not much to do with Ukraine, that is not even in NATO atm, is involving itself in the conflict:

South Korea's government approved export licenses for Poland last year. Now they approve it front of the medias.

And from wiki:

- An undisclosed amount of uniforms and personal military gear (which had been earmarked for delivery to the military of Afghanistan) to be sent to Ukraine instead, delivered via NATO.[339][340][341]
- $2.9 billion of Chiron MANPADS (indirectly through Czech Republic; paid by US) in September 2022.[342]
- US$1.6 million worth of non-lethal military and medical supplies such as bulletproof vests, helmets, medical supplies and meals, ready-to-eat (MREs) in March 2022.[343]
- An unspecified amount of cash announced on 8 March.[344][345]
- Bilateral ODA to be increased by designating Ukraine as key 중점협력국 "Priority Cooperation Country" for years 2021–2025.


South Korea relies on US support to defend itself against North Korea, and also perspectively against China. It makes perfect sense that they (and Japan) are taking sides in this conflict while much of the rest of the world (India, Africa, South America) tries to stay out of it as much as possible.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 8 Mar 2023 20:42)
South Korea relies on US support to defend itself against North Korea, and also perspectively against China. It makes perfect sense that they (and Japan) are taking sides in this conflict while much of the rest of the world (India, Africa, South America) tries to stay out of it as much as possible.


We know that along with their super slow moving forward into NATO direction since years because they are very carreful about joining US further more. Same for Japan.
Btw you can see now the Russian agression of Ukraine has even more an all-in-one output with that: More countries joining NATO or getting closer if the west wins. Leverage effect.
West aligned asian countries have absolutely no obligation to give military help because they don't need that to have US to continue its military presence in asian seas.
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Mar 8 2023 05:22pm
Surely people can't be this stupid to believe this. The pipeline was concrete encased ~260feet under water at a relatively shallow point. There's no way some rando-commandos went out and rented a yacht dived 260ft, knowing exactly where the shallow points of the pipeline are, locating it, then blowing through it. Whoever did, it's pretty obvious they had sophisticated equipment and knew exactly what they were doing, no way this wasn't either a state actor or at least state actor/intelligence agency sponsored.

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European and US intelligence officials have obtained tentative intelligence to suggest a pro-Ukrainian saboteur group may have been behind the bombing of the Nord Stream gas pipelines last year, according to reports in the New York Times and German newspaper Die Zeit.

German investigators believe the attack on the pipelines was carried out by a team of six people, using a yacht that had been hired by a company registered in Poland and owned by two Ukrainian citizens, according to Die Zeit.

The information has been shared between European intelligence agencies in an effort to establish more information about those who carried out the undersea bombings in September, an attack that had left western governments perplexed.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/07/officials-believe-pro-ukraine-group-sabotage-nord-stream-pipelines

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Quote (ofthevoid @ 9 Mar 2023 00:22)
Surely people can't be this stupid to believe this. The pipeline was concrete encased ~260feet under water at a relatively shallow point. There's no way some rando-commandos went out and rented a yacht dived 260ft, knowing exactly where the shallow points of the pipeline are, locating it, then blowing through it. Whoever did, it's pretty obvious they had sophisticated equipment and knew exactly what they were doing, no way this wasn't either a state actor or at least state actor/intelligence agency sponsored.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/07/officials-believe-pro-ukraine-group-sabotage-nord-stream-pipelines


The explosion of the Nord Stream gas pipelines occurred after the counter-offensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Kharkiv Oblast and after a clearly established alliance and increased military aid to Ukraine.

The explanation it was Russia, as a last-ressort black mail & pressure, is pretty decent.



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Quote (ofthevoid @ 9 Mar 2023 00:22)
Surely people can't be this stupid to believe this. The pipeline was concrete encased ~260feet under water at a relatively shallow point. There's no way some rando-commandos went out and rented a yacht dived 260ft, knowing exactly where the shallow points of the pipeline are, locating it, then blowing through it. Whoever did, it's pretty obvious they had sophisticated equipment and knew exactly what they were doing, no way this wasn't either a state actor or at least state actor/intelligence agency sponsored.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/07/officials-believe-pro-ukraine-group-sabotage-nord-stream-pipelines


I mostly agree. That's a far too elaborate operation to be carried out by some random mercenaries or such. At the very least, they would need elite navy divers and the corresponding equipment. I have a hard time seeing a random, private pro-Ukraine or anti-Putin group pulling something like this off.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 9 Mar 2023 00:56)
I mostly agree. That's a far too elaborate operation to be carried out by some random mercenaries or such. At the very least, they would need elite navy divers and the corresponding equipment. I have a hard time seeing a random, private pro-Ukraine or anti-Putin group pulling something like this off.


Nothing new, most of basic articles are saying that.

But the requirements are not that gigantic either, ie dont forget this is a whole civilian industry and alot of people are working / have experience to do this job.
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Mar 9 2023 12:09am

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This dude from Germany?

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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Mar 9 2023 07:09am)
^ferdia , ^Bananii , ^JohnnyMcCoy

This dude from Germany?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QusIYFCSWig



after first 2 words you can hear that hes german 😅
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