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Mar 8 2023 09:52am
The problem with the west is that you guys were rich as hell in the past.
You were consuming nearly all world resources.
You were making use of cheap labor like China.
Now the countries like China grow up, develop, and try to even the gap.
They dont want to work for pennies anymore.
Some other countries like India grow in population rapidly.
Instead of being just a cheap labor, they build their own trademarks, and start exporting them.
Sometimes they copy western products, sometimes they develop them themselves.
So the west needed to reduce its prices and its incomes, to remain competetive in the world with their/our products.
So today westerners are in fact little less rich, than their parents were.
But it's not the end of the world, rather an end of extra bonus our/yours parents had.
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Mar 8 2023 09:57am
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The problem with the west is that you guys were rich as hell in the past.
You were consuming nearly all world resources.
You were making use of cheap labor like China.
Now the countries like China grow up, develop, and try to even the gap.
They dont want to work for pennies anymore.
Some other countries like India grow in population rapidly.
Instead of being just a cheap labor, they build their own trademarks, and start exporting them.
Sometimes they copy western products, sometimes they develop them themselves.
So the west needed to reduce its prices and its incomes, to remain competetive in the world with their/our products.
So today westerners are in fact little less rich, than their parents were.
But it's not the end of the world, rather an end of extra bonus our/yours parents had.


Poland is considered in the West. If you want to be considered as part of Russia, have at it.

If you dont consider yourself part of the west what hope is there in your understanding that most of what you said in this post is a contrived narrative. It is not the growth of India and China etc that has led to the social inequalities in the west but rather our economic culture/policies in tandem with the ineptitude of our political systems at not guiding the economic landscape.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 8 2023 10:06am
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Meh, Declaration of Arbroath 1320 AD is better,
"It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours, that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself"

Most iconic Irish aphorism? I vote for Oscar Wilde “We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.”

But we all know it is actually Roy Keane “You can stick your World Cup up your b*llocks.”
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Meh, Declaration of Arbroath 1320 AD is better,
"It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours, that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself"

Most iconic Irish aphorism? I vote for Oscar Wilde “We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.”

But we all know it is actually Roy Keane “You can stick your World Cup up your b*llocks.”


Roy Keane should have been jailed for his tackle on Haaland.
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Roy Keane should have been jailed for his tackle on Haaland.


We call that an honest 50/50 up north.
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We call that an honest 50/50 up north.


He? or was it Eamon? wrote a book and in the book roy was quoted as saying he did it on purpose. So he committed an assault and then admitted to it. 100% should have been jailed.

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Poland is considered in the West. If you want to be considered as part of Russia, have at it.

If you dont consider yourself part of the west what hope is there in your understanding that most of what you said in this post is a contrived narrative. It is not the growth of India and China etc that has led to the social inequalities in the west.


Poland is the part of west NOW.
Hovewer we were not in the past, as we were under Russian occupation after the ww2, so we weren't rich.
If you ask an average german if Germany was better 30 years ago, he will probably tell you: hell yeah, it was better back then.
But if you make same question in Poland, an average person will tell you "now its better".
This is what I mean, historic differences.
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Poland is the part of west NOW.
Hovewer we were not in the past, as we were under Russian occupation after the ww2, so we weren't rich.
If you ask an average german if Germany was better 30 years ago, he will probably tell you: hell yeah, it was better back then.
But if you make same question in Poland, an average person will tell you "now its better".
This is what I mean, historic differences.


yes this is better can agree with all that.
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Mar 8 2023 10:11am
Quote (ferdia @ Mar 8 2023 04:07pm)
He? or was it Eamon? wrote a book and in the book roy was quoted as saying he did it on purpose. So he committed an assault and then admitted to it. 100% should have been jailed.


Sure. Kean tore his acl ligament some time before. Basically a potentially career ending injury
and Haaland shouted in his face to get up and stop faking it.

I don't condone assaulting anyone but when you fuck around you find out.
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Sure. Kean tore his acl ligament some time before. Basically a potentially career ending injury
and Haaland shouted in his face to get up and stop faking it.

I don't condone assaulting anyone but when you fuck around you find out.


so lets be clear:

1. Roy Keane was injured in a football match by Haaland.
2. Haaland said inappropriate comments to Roy on the pitch, inferring Roy was faking an injury (he was not)
3. Years went by before they met again on the pitch.
4. Roy Keane purposely injured Haaland. It is open to debate whether this injury ended Haalands career or not.
5. Roy Keane's biographer? Eamon Dunphy wrote in his book that Roy purposely injured Haaland.

I completely agree with you, when you f*** around you find out.

So bringing it back on Topic, Russia told the US not to touch Ukraine. Ukraine was touched inappropriately and Russia is now ending Ukraine.

I dont condone invading ukraine whatsoever but by your own words when you f*** around you find out.
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