d2jsp
Log InRegister
d2jsp Forums > Off-Topic > General Chat > Political & Religious Debate > Russia / Ukraine
Prev1232923302331233223335001Next
Closed New Topic New Poll
Member
Posts: 5,152
Joined: Jun 5 2020
Gold: 301.67
Warn: 10%
Mar 7 2023 07:49am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Mar 7 2023 02:46pm)
Still waiting for your "solution" remember our exchange https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=92094408&f=119&p=641469838 ?



yes i know youre to think yourself
Member
Posts: 66,666
Joined: May 17 2005
Gold: 17,384.69
Mar 7 2023 07:56am
Quote (Bananii @ 7 Mar 2023 14:49)
yes i know youre to think yourself


Spitting in the soup is not a solution. Good riddance.
Member
Posts: 5,152
Joined: Jun 5 2020
Gold: 301.67
Warn: 10%
Mar 7 2023 08:01am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Mar 7 2023 02:56pm)
Spitting in the soup is not a solution. Good riddance.



im tired man.. 15 years have past and you guys still believe compound interest capitalism is the true way of getting peace, while every 20th post you guys claim that its the xapitalism which causes all these problems
if you want peace, you search for a solution.

youre not for peace.
Member
Posts: 16,411
Joined: Apr 9 2007
Gold: 12,059.17
Mar 7 2023 08:08am
Quote (Djunior @ 7 Mar 2023 14:23)
What a joke. Ukraine is stuffed full of NATO equipment and NATO people.

You're completely dishonest but I remember you from earlier in this topic, you haven't changed a bit


There is some NATO equipment in Ukraine, but no NATO soldiers.
Ukraine is a free country, a free country can buy equipment from other countries, including NATO countries.
If NATO gives a huge discount to Ukraine, because Ukraine is poor atm, its fine too.
Generally supplying ammunition and arms is not considered in diplomatic world as joining the war.
In fact the supplies to Ukraine are limited, because NATO doesnt want to escalate war.

I'm being honest, you are not.
Member
Posts: 2,938
Joined: Dec 26 2021
Gold: 0.00
Warn: 10%
Mar 7 2023 08:09am
Manlet Putin is a disgrace to slavs :)
Member
Posts: 15,947
Joined: Jun 27 2010
Gold: 102,354.50
Mar 7 2023 08:33am
Quote (Ironfister @ Mar 7 2023 03:08pm)
There is some NATO equipment in Ukraine, but no NATO soldiers.
Ukraine is a free country, a free country can buy equipment from other countries, including NATO countries.
If NATO gives a huge discount to Ukraine, because Ukraine is poor atm, its fine too.
Generally supplying ammunition and arms is not considered in diplomatic world as joining the war.
In fact the supplies to Ukraine are limited, because NATO doesnt want to escalate war.

I'm being honest, you are not.


Besides people at the front there's a whole bunch of NATO people involved in Ukraine providing intel and targeting data. Ukraine doesn't have those capabilities, satellites and all that, you know that.

Secondly it's okay then for China to start supplying Russia with weapons and ammo, right?

You're not honest at all dude. People like you should just say you hate Russia because everyone here sees right through you.



Member
Posts: 16,411
Joined: Apr 9 2007
Gold: 12,059.17
Mar 7 2023 09:05am
Quote (Djunior @ 7 Mar 2023 15:33)
Besides people at the front there's a whole bunch of NATO people involved in Ukraine providing intel and targeting data. Ukraine doesn't have those capabilities, satellites and all that, you know that.

Secondly it's okay then for China to start supplying Russia with weapons and ammo, right?

You're not honest at all dude. People like you should just say you hate Russia because everyone here sees right through you.


I don't know if Nato people provide Intel to Ukraine, what I know is that Poland has been a frequent target of Russian cyberattacks since the start of Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
Still nobody considers it as a war declaration.
Satelites images are sold on the market like goods, maybe some companies donate some satelite images to Ukraine, or give them a discount.

Ukraine is a victim, it is moral thing to support the victim, not the attacker.

If the China decides to provide arms to Russia, it won't be officially at war with Ukraine.
Hovewer it will be a hostile move, and can result in some kind of trade ban for example.
Member
Posts: 45,718
Joined: Aug 25 2008
Gold: 40,130.00
Mar 7 2023 09:22am
Quote (Ironfister @ 7 Mar 2023 23:05)
I don't know if Nato people provide Intel to Ukraine, what I know is that Poland has been a frequent target of Russian cyberattacks since the start of Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
Still nobody considers it as a war declaration.
Satelites images are sold on the market like goods, maybe some companies donate some satelite images to Ukraine, or give them a discount.

Ukraine is a victim, it is moral thing to support the victim, not the attacker.

If the China decides to provide arms to Russia, it won't be officially at war with Ukraine.
Hovewer it will be a hostile move, and can result in some kind of trade ban for example.


Ukraine should trade ban China, I m all for it. B)
Member
Posts: 16,411
Joined: Apr 9 2007
Gold: 12,059.17
Mar 7 2023 09:23am
Quote (Bananii @ 7 Mar 2023 14:17)
rich people dont pay those taxes you think of. most rich people leave county, or just dont pay taxes. also there is a cap for rich people in germany.
i think it was 2014 when 60.000 people went for a self-disclosure due not paying taxes.

you dream of a world that doesn’t exist. capitalism is evil and those who earn better money becoming greedy and rob the citizens money. capitalism makes people bad.

for example you should know him: michael schuhmacher. when he esrned 80.000.000 DM a year, he left germany and went to switzerland, coz 50% taxes on those 80mils yaaaa hmmm, its worth to rob his own nation right?
in fact he stole 40million a year from german tax payers.

youre dreamer. and manipulatable aswell. not good for discussions.


Michael Schumacher makes it money from all over the world.
All over the world people watch F1. Why it has to be Germany to get this tax? Because he was born german? That's not how residence works.
He can decide to live and pay taxes anywhere he wants.
But most people are not like Michael Schumacher.
For example, a local engineer earning 100k euro annually cannot really leave the country, as he cannot work remotely.
Even if he could, he would have to leave his family and friends.
Is it worth for extra 10k EUR per year?
Same goes for an owner of local cafe, if he leaves he cannot run the cafe any longer.

Capitalism isn't evil, its making people work and earn money.
Jobs in high demand pay more, while jobs in low demand pay less, so it naturaly makes people switch jobs to more needed ones.
I'm not saying everything works perfectly, there are many countries and often they want to fuck each other or have differences that make the whole world system complicated.
For example Ireland has low taxes to bring corporations there.
Ban Ireland from trade? Not so easy decision, we like our irish friends, we dont want to stop trading with them and we find a compromise. This is the way.
Member
Posts: 16,411
Joined: Apr 9 2007
Gold: 12,059.17
Mar 7 2023 09:28am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 7 Mar 2023 16:22)
Ukraine should trade ban China, I m all for it. B)


Well, if a country A attacks country B, and country B is a neighbour/friend with country C, then the country C can consider country D as hostile if D provides arms to aggressive and villain country A.
So its up to "D" to decide if they want to go hostile with "C".
Go Back To Political & Religious Debate Topic List
Prev1232923302331233223335001Next
Closed New Topic New Poll