Quote (ofthevoid @ 6 Mar 2023 20:44)

Bakhmut was/is a fortress that has been reinforced by tens of thousands of Ukrainian troops and hundreds if not thousands of pieces of hardware such as tanks, artillery, as well as trenches, etc. It's not a matter of if the Russians had more ammo it would of fell sooner but more about how much resource Ukraine had invested in holding it. If you are stupid enough to think if they had more small arms ammo instead of shovels then it would of been taken much faster then honestly I can't help you as basic tasks in your life must be a struggle with a take like that.

What does energy infrastructure have to do with shovels though, which is what the article is talking about?

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 6 Mar 2023 20:54)

Footage circulating today of a Ukrainian soldier executed by firing squad, on camera. After apparently saying "Slava Ukraine".
Definitely not an isolated incident and there will have been atrocities committed by both armies; However this videos release poses several questions, certainly more questions than answers.

https://i.imgur.com/oBA12X8.png

Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 6 2023 02:50pm)

You would think that after hearing 'Russia is out of ammo' for now 11 months, at least every other week, some of these people would say okay, fooled me once, fooled me twice, fooled me 10x times, this time I wont fall for very low effort propaganda like this...only for them to fall for it again. It's incredible. Complete inability to logically think about things in the world. Instead of questioning how utterly retarded it is that an army would be fighting with shovels against fully auto rifles and artillery (and somehow succeeding in Bakhmut) they really don't question it. Never mind the fact that this is modern warfare and the average kill is due to getting hit by artillery or an AK bullet from 60 meters away, so what the fuck are they even talking about with hand to hand combat?


What I find more interesting about this is how so much MSM seemingly has the same talking point being deployed all across. In a normal non-controlled news platform you tend to have different scoops, different news stories, different reporters talking about a wide range of things, whatever. Here you see as if some central overarching authority is saying here print this, this is the talking point we're pushing today, and dozens of outlets all spam publish 'Russians using shovels because out of ammo' story. Like where the fuck is investigative journalism? Or we've really reached this point in history that media independency is a complete sham and you have some alphabet agency behind the scenes directing what news is.

Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 6 Mar 2023 21:06)

a writer named Curtis Yarvin
https://graymirror.substack.com/p/a-brief-explanation-of-the-cathedral

Quote (ofthevoid @ 6 Mar 2023 20:44)

Bakhmut was/is a fortress that has been reinforced by tens of thousands of Ukrainian troops and hundreds if not thousands of pieces of hardware such as tanks, artillery, machine gun nests, as well as trenches, etc. It's not a matter of if the Russians had more ammo it would of fell sooner but more about how much resource Ukraine had invested in holding it. If you are stupid enough to think if they had more small arms ammo instead of shovels then it would of been taken much faster then honestly I can't help you as basic tasks in your life must be a struggle with a take like that.

What does energy infrastructure have to do with shovels though, which is what the article is talking about?

Quote (Ironfister @ Mar 6 2023 09:34pm)

Dude even the official Wagner leader says there is ammo crisis:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-war-day-376-1.6769126

Quote (Ironfister @ Mar 6 2023 03:34pm)

Dude even the official Wagner leader says there is ammo crisis:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-war-day-376-1.6769126

Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 6 2023 10:06pm)

Prighozin is a loud mouth that's trying to leverage a victory in Bakhmut which his forces spearheaded for max future political gain. His back and fourths with factions of Russia's armed forces are essentially just an optical power struggle, so a lot of what he says is to paint himself in the best light while the RU armed forces are just getting in his way or holding him back. It bodes well when he can frame the eventual win as his with no help from RU military brass, that's the true intentions of his whining. Personally I don't focus on what he says too much.

Serious question, Wagner makes small incremental gains every day around Bakhmut. They are in firing range of the last 2 roads out of Bakhmut. Do you honestly think that Wagner units displaced thousands of Ukrainian soldiers with shovels or with lack of ammo?

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 6 Mar 2023 20:57)

This cannot be solved or stop without the United States saying it should stop.
Also just to add, the US cannot allow and will not allow it to stop now.

Russia cannot allow it to stop because as we know they face " security " reasons. Not all Russians but specifically the nationalists, political elite and Putin's insecurity in regards to NATO.
And if Russia stops now, they will lose and suffer a 100 times more than just their " sanctions " now.

Ukraine cannot stop the war because it is not exactly their call.

Chinese can't do anything even though they both partners and " friends " of both countries. And the United States will in some ways prevent the Chinese of being successful if they ever try to negotiate a peace talk between both countries.

The war will escalate until the next USA Election which is in a year or a year and a half and we will see.

My personal opinion.

Quote (Ironfister @ 7 Mar 2023 05:13)

I will explain that for ya.
There is an attacker (Russia) and there is a defender (Ukraine). There are also some countries providing some assistance to Ukraine (for simplicity lets call them NATO but its not just NATO).
So an attacker took 15% of Ukraine territory, and has apetite for more, so there could be possibly a case fire but not really longtime peace.
Russia could be maybe interested in a temporary cease fire to regroup and train new soldiers, since their initial invasion plan failed.
On the other hand Ukraine isn't happy with Russia occupying part of their territory, is angry and feels that cease fire would benefit Russians more than Ukrainians.
Of course if NATO stops its assistance, Ukraine falls.
Hovewer NATO knows that if Ukraine falls, Putin will attack some eastern NATO countries next.
Would the peaceful western NATO countries help the eastern NATO countries? thats not so obvious. The NATO could possibly collapse as a project.
So NATO isnt backing off from helping Ukraine, they prefer to send money and ammo to Ukraine rather than fight a defensive war in their own territory.
We dont know who will be next USA president. If it will be once again Russia friend, he could even disband NATO.
That will mean end of USA as a World Super Power, so it would be bad for USA also, but democracy is unpredictible.