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Mar 6 2023 11:08am
Quote (Bananii @ Mar 6 2023 06:02pm)
i understand what you mean, but what i dont understand (not at you specifically,i mean anyone)

russia doesnt expand, tried to conquer other countries only 3 times since 18th century (meanwhiles words), have 2 military bases outside of russia and never ever used an atomic bomb on humans.

usa meanwhile (haha wordjoke) conqueres the whole world, bombing those who defend, installing 715+ military bases in 135+ countries in this world, triing to enslave anyone with a capitalistic „democracy“ system, AND already used the abomb. twice.



when i read meanwhiles posts for example, it most times sounds hes talking about USA when he „describes“ sowjet un.. *cough* russia

why is that? tbh, anyone whos able to count to 3 can smell the bigger danger..


US became a hegemony after soviet collapse, which gave them free reign. In that situation the empire will grow and push as hard as possible (this has happened historically many times). Now they are losing power at every front, and China is a contestant, this leads to revival of power-politics.

This is how any hegemonic country would act by the way. I don´t like the concept of there being 1 hegemony for this precise reason. However the downside of having a multipolar world is that it inevitably leads to power(balance) conflicts.
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Mar 6 2023 11:12am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Mar 6 2023 05:55pm)
I am scared of any nuclear super power that goes unchecked and potentially go crazy ( which they will not )

Perhaps because of the region I am currently residing and also my citizenship in my original country ( I am staying in Hong Kong and I am a Singaporean citizen ), I will be less afraid of Russia and USA and China military wise.

But I am more afraid of possible Muslim extremist in my region.

So it is rather difficult for me to give you an honest answer towards your question.

:hail:



99% Agree.

I leave out 1% or even perhaps 0.1% just in case..



uhm okay yes hard question.

but objectivly, do you think russia want conquer and enslave whole world with this ukraine war like its postet everywhere?

or is it more possible russia just doesnt want europes biggest gas reservoir being scammed by the mad USA, while they gave ukraine free for decades?

im not sure what people make believe russia wanted to conquer poland and germany aswell after ukraine is done
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Mar 6 2023 11:13am
Quote (Bananii @ Mar 6 2023 06:12pm)
uhm okay yes hard question.

but objectivly, do you think russia want conquer and enslave whole world with this ukraine war like its postet everywhere?

or is it more possible russia just doesnt want europes biggest gas reservoir being scammed by the mad USA, while they gave ukraine free for decades?

im not sure what people make believe russia wanted to conquer poland and germany aswell after ukraine is done


You can think of the US as a dad going through a divorce and bit by bit losing his family (wife and kids), there is an identity crisis of sorts going on.

This post was edited by ownyaah on Mar 6 2023 11:14am
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Mar 6 2023 11:16am
Quote (ownyaah @ Mar 6 2023 06:13pm)
You can think of the US as a dad going through a divorce and bit by bit losing his family (wife and kids).


whaat 😅

so why the divorce? whose fault was it mom and kids going away?

moms?
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Mar 6 2023 11:19am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Mar 6 2023 03:39pm)
Hey Bro, I don't think we should look at what some mainstream media is saying about the Chinese increased military spending, they are probably getting wrong info most of the time or given fake info. But what I can be sure of, at least for now, due to my connections via my work.
They will increase their Nuclear stock pile from around 300 to around 1500 / 1800 warheads by 2030.

Just because you are decent economically , if you don't have those nukes you can get people to sit on the table. And even if you have nukes , you need to be a decent economical power house to sit on the table. Russia have nukes but extremely weak economy. And you need friends , part of the reason why for the next 3 to 5 years at least , the Chinese will go on a foreign diplomatic world tour.

And there is another catch with your friends, you need to help and pull your friends up to a decent living standard. This is a seemingly impossible task to perform.


I dont understand what you are saying here. but I already stated that the numbers for chinese military spending dont appear to be correct (too low estimates) do you disagree with my position on this?
also I dont under what you are saying here, the US and the UK are champions of capitalism, which is not about bring the living standards of everyone up, its for the rich to get richer and who care about everyone else. its not an impossible task to improve everyones standard of living, its simply not a goal of these countries.

and finally re: increasing nuclear stockpiles - thats a natural event, same as increased military spending. because if the dog does not bark no one will be afraid of it.

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Mar 6 2023 11:24am
Quote (ownyaah @ 7 Mar 2023 01:13)
You can think of the US as a dad going through a divorce and bit by bit losing his family (wife and kids), there is an identity crisis of sorts going on.


this is perhaps a very apt and straight forward answer to your question.

In regards to what make people believe Russia wants to conquer Poland and Germany, I guess it's wartime propaganda ( Geo Political Marketing ).

But I think there is something deeper than that.
And like what the great Bill Clinton says and I quote him. " It's the economy, stupid ! "

The state of USA Economy can be perhaps understood better and explained better by ( Sorry for mentioning you in this, but you do have the expertise. )
I think if USA's domestic politics and economy is doing extremely well and not as divided as it is at the moment and her military industry complex is not privatized. Perhaps we will see less of these major conflicts around the world.

It might be a naive viewpoint since USA is an extremely capitalistic society.
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Mar 6 2023 11:26am
Quote (ownyaah @ 6 Mar 2023 17:30)
No, russians dont have bullets, they also dont have tanks, artillery or planes. They are taking bakhmut by running with shovels.

They have a total of 88 billion deaths, and 3000 million tanks destroyed


Stop joking pls, this is a serious topic
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Mar 6 2023 11:28am
Quote (ferdia @ Mar 6 2023 06:19pm)
I dont understand what you are saying here. but I already stated that the numbers for chinese military spending dont appear to be correct (too low estimates) do you disagree with my position on this?
also I dont under what you are saying here, the US and the UK are champions of capitalism, which is not about bring the living standards of everyone up, its for the rich to get richer and who care about everyone else. its not an impossible task to improve everyones standard of living, its simply not a goal of these countries.

and finally re: increasing nuclear stockpiles - thats a natural event, same as increased military spending. because if the dog does not bark no one will be afraid of it.


Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Mar 6 2023 06:24pm)
^Bananii this is perhaps a very apt and straight forward answer to your question.

In regards to what make people believe Russia wants to conquer Poland and Germany, I guess it's wartime propaganda ( Geo Political Marketing ).

But I think there is something deeper than that.
And like what the great Bill Clinton says and I quote him. " It's the economy, stupid ! "

The state of USA Economy can be perhaps understood better and explained better by ^ofthevoid ( Sorry for mentioning you in this, but you do have the expertise. )
I think if USA's domestic politics and economy is doing extremely well and not as divided as it is at the moment and her military industry complex is not privatized. Perhaps we will see less of these major conflicts around the world.

It might be a naive viewpoint since USA is an extremely capitalistic society.


yeees and were getting closer again now :ph34r:

whats my next sentence? who knows it? :D
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Mar 6 2023 11:35am
Quote (ferdia @ 7 Mar 2023 01:19)


1. I dont understand what you are saying here. but I already stated that the numbers for chinese military spending dont appear to be correct (too low estimates) do you disagree with my position on this?

2. also I dont under what you are saying here, the US and the UK are champions of capitalism, which is not about bring the living standards of everyone up, its for the rich to get richer and who care about everyone else. its not an impossible task to improve everyones standard of living, its simply not a goal of these countries.

3. and finally re: increasing nuclear stockpiles - thats a natural event, same as increased military spending. because if the dog does not bark no one will be afraid of it.


I should have read a few more pages beforehand to see what is the conversation about. my bad

Point 1.

I dont disagree on your position.

Point 2.

Yes, both these countries are champions of extreme capitalism. I am mentioning the Chinese trying to pull her third world or developing country friends up to a better living standard because if they don't it will be very difficult for the Chinese to counter a conflict with the United States government.
I am not sure if I put it in words correctly, but help me correct the way I phrase my comments.

Point 3.

As much as I think increasing nuclear stockpile is a natural event. On a personal level, I don't think the Chinese intended to do that previously or even in near future. They are increasing it in such a quick manner due to USA's constant hostility and antagonistic actions towards them ( China's perception ).

But help me phrase my comments a little better if you can.

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Quote (Bananii @ 6 Mar 2023 18:12)


im not sure what people make believe russia wanted to conquer poland and germany aswell after ukraine is done


Russia left Poland and Germany only 30 years ago.
Putin is now 70, he was 40 when Germany and Poland became free. 40 is fully grown up, for him it is proper that these countries were Soviet occupied. I'm sure he wants it back. Putin lived in Germany before the liberation.
Things are getting worse in Russia every year, as Russia is in demographic decline.
The Russian "empire" needs more slaves, more workers, more soldiers to be a proper empire.
Also Putin made it pretty clear in his letter that he disagrees with NATO extension 30years ago and is not going to honor it any longer.
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