About neo nazis in Asow and in Ukrainian government:

The only times I've truly blacked out drinking have been with Russians. I was born too late for McCarthy to put me on a list, but I still think Ive held up better than Paul Wellstone did on his USSR tour video.

I think an offer to... let the enemy surrender... was legit. I mean, why wouldn't it be? Russia isnt so tired of winning its going to beg them to keep fighting. When the allies issued the Potsdam Declaration, I don't think Tojo and the Emperor and the war cabinet all doubted its sincerity and puzzled over the true US intentions. Plenty of doubt in the word 'unconditional', but not over motives.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Mar 21 2022 01:31am

Agreed, that is why I referred to them as 'claims'. We'll see how true it is over the comings weeks/months

Why do you think this? Given how many civilians were killed escaping, humanitarian corridors suddenly closed, etc. in the city of Mariupol, I think it'd be foolish to believe them. That city is going to go the way of Grozny.

That's not really relevant to what I said. My main point is, yall don't know shit about shit. You couldn't find Ukraine on a map in February 2022 and I doubt most of you knew it was a country. I grow very tired of all these sudden foreign policy experts, just as we had sudden virologists two years ago. You clearly don't have the knowledge of the region and its history to understand the delicate real life circumstances that lead to this war. It's easier for you to chug soylent and be told what to think and say by the cathedral, and obey them you dutifully do, every single time like a good little slave.

Kiev has ordered the creation of a single “marathon” channel

https://www.rt.com/russia/552335-ukraine-tv-marathon-policy/

For Mariupol - yes.
For the rest of Ukraine - no, not yet. You still assume that the Ukrainians cannot fight this to a stalemate. You might be right in the end, but we cannot be sure of that as of today.



Regarding "the living under Russian influence" point:

1. From the fall of the Soviet Union until 2014, Ukraine was a country whose president was an ally of Russia (e.g. Janukovych) and made sure that it stays out of the EU/NATO, but it was otherwise relatively free. This is fundamentally different from living under full Russian rule, including a complete lack of democracy or a free press, an economy that is only a vassal of Russia, pervasive oppression of civic life, active russification of its population and so on. What Ukraine has to expect if it falls to the Russians now would be significantly worse than what they had from 1991 to 2014.

2. What does it tell you that so many Ukrainians are willing to literally give their life for this fight for independence and sovereignty? Like you just said: they have more experience living under Russian rule than anyone else - and apparently it sucked so much that they'd rather die than go back to that ever again. Who are we to tell them that they're being unreasonable and that they should just surrender?

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Mar 21 2022 02:51am

Says who?



Identity and motivation are a weird thing. In my experience, people in mass can be manipulated into doing all kinds of irrational things. If Zelensky showed up wearing a suit and said "We should solve this problem diplomatically with least loss of life possible", instead of wearing a military uniform saying "Send me weapons", there would be much fewer Ukrainians willing to die for a cause. In any case the picture you paint is speculative. It is in the interest of Ukrainian regime and American puppeteers to present a picture of defiance till the grave but how accurate is that in reality? How many Ukrainians are willing to die or have their homes bombed for supporting resistance against Russia? We can't really know an accurate measure of that.

Sounds like they won't give up. Our local Trumpsters, messengers of love and peace, are disappointed.

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France freezes 22 billions euros of the Central Bank of Russia

https://fr.euronews.com/2022/03/20/la-france-a-gele-plus-de-22-milliards-d-euros-d-actifs-de-la-banque-de-russie

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Mar 21 2022 05:45am

We have them in the American government too. That could literally be a Proud Boy or Oathkeeper right there.

They also have a Jewish president, have had a woman president. So weird flex.

That is why I don't watch Youtube or documentaries for information, because you're just presented with a one sided argument with crafted context. Just watch Tiger King.



Depends how far the people around him will let Putin go before hey wack him. It is a mafia state (kleptocracy). How profitable is the sacking and rape of Ukraine?

This post was edited by Skinned on Mar 21 2022 05:57am