1. All Russian energy companies are de facto controlled by the Kremlin. Their contributions to the federal budget are determined by politics and can thus deviate from their profitability.

2. You can see from your own chart that Russian energy revenues were pretty steadily increasing year-on-year from 2009 until 2014. It makes perfect sense that the calculations for Russian war efforts in Ukraine in 2014 and beyond were based on a projection of this trend, which went out of the window in the following years. By the time the 2018/19 spike came around, any plans for a large-scale invasion of Ukraine which might have existed in 2014 had already been put on ice. And then, from early 2020, covid put the whole world on a hold.

3. Before the covid recovery boom starting in 2021, Gazprom's operating profit (rather than their contributions to Russia's federal budget) had been on a longer-term downward (or at least stagnation) trend.


4. You're completely dismissing the second part of my argument, namely that Putin's considerations were not just about the funding of his war from energy revenue, but also about the economic leverage that closing the gas tap would give him over Europe. And in this second regard, the rise of the North American fracking industry (and the sudden excess supply on the global markets that it created) definitely threw his plans off.

fixed

a fun fact to note here is that russia literally sponsored campaigns against fracking in germany to prevent us from using our own resources

if germany used its own resources, depending on russian natural gas wouldnt have been a thing for quite a while

Like I said, even given very clear proof that you are wrong, out will come endless rationalizations because what's important to the West, from the lowest forum poster to the highest people in government and media, is to manage the narrative.

Being correct, being able to actually understand the world *as it exists* is a minor secondary concern.

Which is a good thing! It makes correction on the part of the West impossible, and all but ensures that it's empire collapses. As I said earlier, the stakes here are the 10 trillion dollars every year that the imperialist powers loot from the global South. As it ends, Westerners will be left not only without the tools to arrest the change, but even the tools to understand what's happening. Good riddance!

"BuT wHaT aBoUt ThE eArThQuAkEs?"
*sigh*

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Mar 4 2023 07:38pm

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/RUB=X/

Exchange rates are a funny thing! You need to be careful about what you're looking at, or you're very likely to draw the wrong conclusions.

A fun fact to note here is that America bombed Germany's infrastructure and now they pay so much for LNG from an ocean away that their industries are leaving to China and America.

So you're suggesting the West didn't push for NATO expansion? Historic facts: They did because NATO expanded despite the promise "NATO will not move an inch East"

So this is definitely fuckery / lies there's no other way to describe it. To say "those countries wanted it" is simply an excuse to warrant NATO policy, lol.

It's obviously the case that US policy since the Soviet Union fell has been to expand NATO, the countries that have joined NATO wanted to do so, and both those positions are justified.

There was never any agreement between the US and Russia to not expand NATO east.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/feb/28/candace-owens/fact-checking-claims-nato-us-broke-agreement-again/

This piece goes into some of the contradictory statements around the issue. But the point is completely moot anyway, because one administration's unwritten promises can mean nothing to the next administration, and Russia would've known that at the time. It's just a dopey talking point for apologists for Russia.

1. The infrastructure that America allegedly bombed according to your narrative (the Nord Stream pipelines) were no longer delivering natural gas to Germany anyway because Russia had already shut them down.
2. Prices for natural gas here in Germany are currently lower than they were at any point in 2022 and roughly on the same level as in the fall of 2021.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Mar 5 2023 02:56am

stay in your wokist western world.traitor. My ancestors didnt fight for the world of now. shame!! russian world is nearest of our old lifestyle than this faking wokist world they want to give us.

and stop Your fake empathy, if you want to help ukranian do it, and go in ukraine.

This post was edited by Pisior on Mar 5 2023 04:19am