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Mar 15 2021 07:13pm
Quote (IceMage @ 15 Mar 2021 20:36)
At some point trolling just becomes pathetic bruh.

says the pathetic pale pasty privileged lefty who trolled for 12 years (Jan 2009 - Jan 2021) rooting against America and wanting the President to fail. or were you being serious the whole time?
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Mar 15 2021 10:27pm
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This is what happens when you abandon intellectualism. You end up being represented by fucking morons.

Conservatives need to come up with a vision for America and they really don't have that anymore.


I don't think that's the problem here.

The Democrats are making a concerted attempt to subvert and destroy intellectualism in the United States. The old guard of liberals are being forced out of academia and media and are being replaced by ideologues.

The danger in this is very real, and yet we have politicians ranting about Mr/Mrs/It Potatohead on Tv. They either don't understand the problem or are incompetent at addressing it. It should not be so hard to construct a coherent narrative and repeat it ad nauseam.

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Mar 16 2021 12:35pm
https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/1371616381775577098

If Tucker was legitimately interested in informing his audience, there's several experts who could easily answer his vaccine skeptical questions. But he's not actually interested in informing... his primary motivation is to misinform.

It's incredibly sad... because someone in Tucker's powerful and influential position could very well convince thousands of people to get the vaccine, simply by having experts on to talk about it. But he'd rather go on ridiculous monologues and invite Alex Berenson on.

This post was edited by IceMage on Mar 16 2021 12:38pm
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Quote (IceMage @ Mar 16 2021 02:35pm)
https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/1371616381775577098

If Tucker was legitimately interested in informing his audience, there's several experts who could easily answer his vaccine skeptical questions. But he's not actually interested in informing... his primary motivation is to misinform.

It's incredibly sad... because someone in Tucker's powerful and influential position could very well convince thousands of people to get the vaccine, simply by having experts on to talk about it. But he'd rather go on ridiculous monologues and invite Alex Berenson on.


I agree with the main thrust of his point, which is that we need to combat anti-vaxers directly and refute the arguments which they are making.

"You can just google it" is a terrible take, because we all know that hardly anyone does serious research into the positions they hold, and are instead unduly influenced by word-of-mouth and other similarly untrustworthy sources of information.
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Mar 16 2021 12:44pm
Quote (IceMage @ Mar 16 2021 01:35pm)
https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/1371616381775577098

If Tucker was legitimately interested in informing his audience, there's several experts who could easily answer his vaccine skeptical questions. But he's not actually interested in informing... his primary motivation is to misinform.

It's incredibly sad... because someone in Tucker's powerful and influential position could very well convince thousands of people to get the vaccine, simply by having experts on to talk about it. But he'd rather go on ridiculous monologues and invite Alex Berenson on.


Did you watch John Oliver's show this week? It was basically highlighting how thinly veiled the white supremacy is on Tucker Carlson's show, to the surprise of nobody who pays even the slightest bit of attention.
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Mar 16 2021 01:00pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Mar 16 2021 02:43pm)
I agree with the main thrust of his point, which is that we need to combat anti-vaxers directly and refute the arguments which they are making.

"You can just google it" is a terrible take, because we all know that hardly anyone does serious research into the positions they hold, and are instead unduly influenced by word-of-mouth and other similarly untrustworthy sources of information.


Someone interested in having those questions answered would have an expert on to do it. I've yet to see Tucker do that... and the vaccine has been out for months.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Mar 16 2021 02:44pm)
Did you watch John Oliver's show this week? It was basically highlighting how thinly veiled the white supremacy is on Tucker Carlson's show, to the surprise of nobody who pays even the slightest bit of attention.


Nope, I'll check it out though.
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Mar 19 2021 09:35am
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1372909898300854285

This is something I've been thinking about lately, as it's come out by the American intelligence community that many high profile Republicans(Nunes, Johnson, etc) have laundered material on Biden that was floated by Russian intelligence assets.

Republicans and right-wingers view many Americans who disagree with them, particularly Democrats, as the enemy. So partnering with hostile countries like Russia to find dirt on Democrats isn't out of bounds for them. According to the Flight 93 logic(which was an article written in 2016 about how Democrats getting elected is the end of America), partnering with hostile countries against domestic political foes isn't that out of bounds.

It's the same logic that enabled the Capitol insurrection. When you think a new party taking control of part of the government would result in the end of the country, it's easy to justify illegal behavior.

So, when I see Hannity and others talking of Putin's ridiculous maneuvers as legitimate statecraft that should worry Biden, I'm not surprised. These people identify with Putin far more than they do with Biden.
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Mar 19 2021 09:40am
Quote (IceMage @ Mar 19 2021 11:35am)
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1372909898300854285

This is something I've been thinking about lately, as it's come out by the American intelligence community that many high profile Republicans(Nunes, Johnson, etc) have laundered material on Biden that was floated by Russian intelligence assets.

Republicans and right-wingers view many Americans who disagree with them, particularly Democrats, as the enemy. So partnering with hostile countries like Russia to find dirt on Democrats isn't out of bounds for them. According to the Flight 93 logic(which was an article written in 2016 about how Democrats getting elected is the end of America), partnering with hostile countries against domestic political foes isn't that out of bounds.

It's the same logic that enabled the Capitol insurrection. When you think a new party taking control of part of the government would result in the end of the country, it's easy to justify illegal behavior.

So, when I see Hannity and others talking of Putin's ridiculous maneuvers as legitimate statecraft that should worry Biden, I'm not surprised. These people identify with Putin far more than they do with Biden.



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Mar 19 2021 09:56am
We are living in the twilight zone where there is lot of stupid people willing to believe anything . This is why we're all going down the hole .
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Mar 19 2021 10:24am
Quote (IceMage @ Mar 19 2021 11:35am)
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1372909898300854285

This is something I've been thinking about lately, as it's come out by the American intelligence community that many high profile Republicans(Nunes, Johnson, etc) have laundered material on Biden that was floated by Russian intelligence assets.

Republicans and right-wingers view many Americans who disagree with them, particularly Democrats, as the enemy. So partnering with hostile countries like Russia to find dirt on Democrats isn't out of bounds for them. According to the Flight 93 logic(which was an article written in 2016 about how Democrats getting elected is the end of America), partnering with hostile countries against domestic political foes isn't that out of bounds.

It's the same logic that enabled the Capitol insurrection. When you think a new party taking control of part of the government would result in the end of the country, it's easy to justify illegal behavior.

So, when I see Hannity and others talking of Putin's ridiculous maneuvers as legitimate statecraft that should worry Biden, I'm not surprised. These people identify with Putin far more than they do with Biden.


We have already covered, at great length, how the Democratic party used Russian and other foreign assets to try and procure damaging information on Trump.

High-ranking Democratic officials maintained active relations with Iranian officials, a country that we know has killed and is trying to kill Americans, in an effort to directly undermine American foreign policy.

In the first case, however, it would not be bad to procure damaging information on Trump from whatever source unless that information is false, as was unfortunately the case. The damaging information on Hunter Biden does not appear to be false, so we are all justifiably concerned that Biden is calling him the "...smartest guy I know".
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