and lets not forget we just had a long thread the other day about whats wrong with private prisons and the privatization of public prisons
rent-a-cops aren't subject to the same regulations and accountability as a police force. They are far, far more likely to respond with deadly force, escalate situations, violate civil rights, etc.
Everything that is wrong with privatization in relatively mundane incarceration is 100x worse when you're paying people to put their lives on the line in a dangerous occupation.

no, BLM wouldn't be satisfied with anything less than letting gangs run their neighborhoods

wow yeah jacking extensions and smashing up a wig store is gonna solve the ongoing issue at hand

I take exception to the idea that an "organization" (note that I use that term loosely) where the most outspoken are lefty college students, graduates, or teachers would take kindly at all to not receiving police services. They would use having poor black neighborhoods ruled by gangs and untouched by police as an absolute sign of pure and unbridled systemic racism. They'd point the finger and say, "You're only willing to protect rich suburbanites (of which the speaker is almost certainly included) and leave the Urban youth to die in gang wars! You hate blacks/POC/African-American/WhateverTheFuckEverTermIsPCToday!!!!111ONEONEONE!111"

No, there's no real win when it comes to BLM.

they already do exactly that

hell, I witnessed multiple times during the livestreams last night people complaining how long it took for the cops and firefighters to show up to burning buildings, saying it was because they're racist pigs. As they broke the windows on the fire trucks and hurled bricks and bottles at the firefighters until they had to retreat. Heck, they're throwing stuff at firefighters right now and for the past few hours as they work to put out the smouldering ruins. Its been a pretty constant trope in the BLM culture war that they will make paradoxical complaints about underpolicing and overpolicing, that's nothing new. There's always been one constant of irrationality and criminality, and it ain't from the cops.

This post was edited by Goomshill on May 28 2020 11:02am

Black Panthers maybe?

https://www.facebook.com/groups/419807545084465/

rioting has spread to St Paul during daytime today
50-60 rioters are attacking Midway shopping center, mall is being evacuated
foot locker, target, family dollar, cub foods, CVS all being evacuated as rioters swarm them
citizens are trying to use vehicles to block the entrances to the mall to prevent the cars filled with looters from entering

I'm hearing reports that the light rail may have been shut down, which might avert some of the spread of rioters

This post was edited by Goomshill on May 28 2020 11:13am

correct. there are trade's unions who are entirely unskilled, and they're as desperate for labor as any other union. job site cleaners, intro road construction labor, insulation spraying, etc. none of these are considered "skilled trades" because the training is done on the jobsite, and is in general very low training anyways.

none of these unions, which all have a demand for labor, wanted anything to do with convicts. why would an electrical union which is in demand of labor want an electrician who got trained by a cut rate program in a federal prison over someone with no record who went to a technical college on their own dime? apprenticeships are largely dead anyways in most trades, so its a choice of tech school kid over older convict.

now in a real sense would this help some small percent of convicts get jobs, of course, anything u do can have an affect. its just not going to change enough to justify developing and implementing the program.

in general bob, you're indeed doing that thing you do. flavoring your posts with an air of knowledge and authority as if you're correct. do you have any experience trying to place convicts in the midwest rural areas with trades unions? if not maybe consider shutting up when responding to someone who literally did that as a job lol. you sounds like a flat earther ranting at an airline pilot. shhhh

Precisely! So we agree, it's a lose-lose situation. The communities that need preventative policing the most can't get it because they won't allow it, then when they get it because they demand it, they attack it so it disappears, then they cry because they can't get it.

At what point do you simply "This is the law, we will enforce it, if you are in violation, then you will be arrested"??? People attacking firefighters? They should be immediately arrested and thrown in jail. End of discussion. If they need to bring in state and county police and the national guard to restore order? Do it. Treating people differently, either as above the law or not entitled to it's defense, either one, due to skin color, is racist. So the police and other emergency services need to do their job, and if they need to pull out the national guard to help quell violent mobs and throw every last one of them in jail? Do it.

BTW, do we know yet how many people (if any) burned alive?

still no word on burn deaths. At most 0-3 I think, since they evacuated the apartments that were occupied with no casualties afaik, and there were at least 2 reports of people trapped in buildings but no followup on if firefighters reached them or they escaped
only one or two confirmed fatalities so far

Why not?

Law enforcement won't do shit anyways because authorities are too afraid to be called ists. Gov't regulated that people have to wear masks making the perps extremely hard to identify and apprehend, might as well go load up on thousands of dollars worth of goods. And when businesses flee the inner cities, cucks like Skinned will continue his long winded rants about how the system is not fair, completely ignoring the preceding cause of the exodus of job makers and blame it on racism and Trump.