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#231
Nov 13 2019 07:37pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 14 Nov 2019 02:28)
based on the money changing hands and testimony today and leading questions from republicans in the know, it seems to paint a pretty clear picture of what was up

burisma started loading western officials onto its board at the same time as the oligarch owner was driven into exile, in some combination of {seeking to innoculate itself from western investigations} / {being forcibly taken over by the west} / {seeking to convince the west it would play ball with them in control}. They started funneling lots of money to Hunter Biden, Devon Archer & John Kerry from 2014 to 2016. Then when Shokin stirred the pot and raided the oligarch's home- maybe Shokin's palm wasn't getting greased enough, or in reaction to western figures pressuring him- they used their leverage with the west to get direct US intervention to protect Burisma from investigations. A simultaneous outreach through Hunter Biden, Devon Archer & John Kerry, all popping up in diplomatic channels in the same few months of 2016.

its pretty ridiculous to claim its a coincidence that the people getting these millions in payouts from a corrupt ukrainian gas company were the same people who served as diplomatic conduits for Burisma's lobbying to get a reprieve from corruption charges. And its a bad look when your secretary of state, your vice president's son and a former CIA director are all dipping into that gravy. It wasn't even an indirect laundered money trail, it was straight payments from Burisma into an LLC formed by co-founded by Hunter Biden, Christopher Heinz and Devon Archer

dunno how much more direct the money trail could be, unless a chinese businessman walked up to Hunter Biden's hotel room and handed him an $80,000 diamond in person (oh wait)


U.S Democrats, Pelosi, would never push things like they do if there was something significant about Biden or Biden's son.
They aren't playing a Cluedo. "Ukrain is so corrupt, anyway" is the best defense U.S Republicans can do without getting debunked 24/7.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Nov 13 2019 07:38pm
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#232
Nov 13 2019 07:40pm
Quote (IceMage @ Nov 13 2019 08:35pm)
Since you're not just an idiot accepting information from Goom uncritically, can you clue us in on what those documents say? You read them quickly.


Dude literally click on them and notice highlighted money movement. I know it's difficult to think and look at first hand evidence without CNN telling you what to think but at least try.

i'll make it easier for you

go to page 14/260

notice a money movement from Burisma to Rosemont Seneca for 83,333.33 on 4/15?

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Nov 13 2019 07:47pm
Quote (IceMage @ Nov 13 2019 07:35pm)
Since you're not just an idiot accepting information from Goom uncritically, can you clue us in on what those documents say? You read them quickly.


its not like it takes effort to read through that stuff, the topline twitter posts clue what to hone in on

Hunter Biden / Devon Archer / John Kerry / Kerry Jr / Kerry's son all are co-founders/members of an LLC
that LLC took millions of buckaroos from Burisma in 2014-2015 while Biden/Archer were on the board
those payments included the same $83,333 per month that Hunter Biden has acknowleged was paid to him by Burisma- we now know by way of Seneca Holdings, earmarked
and that all happened at the same time as Joe Biden was VP, John Kerry was SoS, and they were all in contact with Burisma & the State Department over the corruption-intervention lobbying
the other payments include:

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According to the Department of Financial Monitoring (Counter-intelligence) of Latvia, the following sums of money were obtained from Busima Holding Limited (Cyprus) which is open at AS PrivatBank in Latvia:

This describes the money transfer of

$14,655,982 and $366,015 EUR from “Wirelogic Technology AS”, and

$1,964,375 from “Digitex Organization LLP”.

Further, part of the sums described above were transferred to Alan Apter, Alexander Kwasniewski, Devon Archer and Hunter Biden.


so there's an unambiguous and direct money trail, showing millions of $ flowing from Burisma to the Biden & Kerry families at the same time as Biden & Kerry intervened over the corruption label and charges against Burisma.
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Nov 13 2019 07:50pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Nov 13 2019 07:37pm)
U.S Democrats, Pelosi, would never push things like they do if there was something significant about Biden or Biden's son.
They aren't playing a Cluedo. "Ukrain is so corrupt, anyway" is the best defense U.S Republicans can do without getting debunked 24/7.


Democrats would never let Ilhan Omar open her mouth if they didn't think they could get away with it after any fallout when her scandals catch up to her.
There doesn't have to be a grand conspiracy or orchestrated political strategy behind everything. Hanlon's razor reigns in washington
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#235
Nov 13 2019 08:04pm
What's interesting is that there doesn't appear to be any money movement after the end of 2015.

Shokin was fired in the beginning of 2016, which would certainly be an interesting coincidence.
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Nov 13 2019 08:07pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 14 Nov 2019 02:50)
Democrats would never let Ilhan Omar open her mouth if they didn't think they could get away with it after any fallout when her scandals catch up to her.
There doesn't have to be a grand conspiracy or orchestrated political strategy behind everything. Hanlon's razor reigns in washington


Dunno why you say this, maybe it involve the first of the 3 reasons regarding the decision in starting the Trump impeachment procedure:
1/ The most reactionary democrats want to kick Trump out at any cost (because they cant afford a "let's tolerate it till 2021" stance)

Pelosi & Binden are "in" since more than 50 years, if the son did something that bad they would probably show a much lower profile.
Plus the Giuliani "back-channel" in Ukraine would have find it since the months they are on it. So i don't think there's anything significant
/

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Nov 13 2019 08:12pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Nov 13 2019 07:33pm)
I'm just dumbfounded how so much evidence in the form of actual bank records & other tangible documents can be unloaded and no one in the msm cares to report it. And then to have the audacity to go after Trump based on 'anonymous sources said' yet ignoring a paper trail...


I honestly think Tim Pools take on it seems accurate.

It's a ploy for 2020. Create more negative press for Donald Trump.

The argument itself is weak for the impeachment, the transcript has been released. The Hearsay evidence, a person heard from a person? That evidence is weak. There's really nothing solid saying he was withholding aid. It's Mueller report 2.0

The President is using his powers to investigate corruption.

Political gain? If anything, maybe based on Tim Pool's analysis it was a reaction in response to the Mueller Report and ongoing hoax investigation that has been following Trump for some kind of revenge by having Trump doing an investigation himself, and since he is investigating political corruption, you can certainly argue that has other interests than political gain.

None of the Democratic candidates are really standing out. If it works as intended, they're ideally hoping one of these individuals will take office in 2020. Create enough negative press so that people go "I'll vote for anybody but Donald Trump", even in the case where Trump isn't removed. The negative press could possibly still make a difference.

And it's possible that could happen in regards to the 2020 results. Though it's also possible it could backfire on them as well.

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#238
Nov 13 2019 09:07pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Nov 13 2019 05:28pm)
based on the money changing hands and testimony today and leading questions from republicans in the know, it seems to paint a pretty clear picture of what was up

burisma started loading western officials onto its board at the same time as the oligarch owner was driven into exile, in some combination of {seeking to innoculate itself from western investigations} / {being forcibly taken over by the west} / {seeking to convince the west it would play ball with them in control}. They started funneling lots of money to Hunter Biden, Devon Archer & John Kerry from 2014 to 2016. Then when Shokin stirred the pot and raided the oligarch's home- maybe Shokin's palm wasn't getting greased enough, or in reaction to western figures pressuring him- they used their leverage with the west to get direct US intervention to protect Burisma from investigations. A simultaneous outreach through Hunter Biden, Devon Archer & John Kerry, all popping up in diplomatic channels in the same few months of 2016.

its pretty ridiculous to claim its a coincidence that the people getting these millions in payouts from a corrupt ukrainian gas company were the same people who served as diplomatic conduits for Burisma's lobbying to get a reprieve from corruption charges. And its a bad look when your secretary of state, your vice president's son and a former CIA director are all dipping into that gravy. It wasn't even an indirect laundered money trail, it was straight payments from Burisma into an LLC formed by co-founded by Hunter Biden, Christopher Heinz and Devon Archer

dunno how much more direct the money trail could be, unless a chinese businessman walked up to Hunter Biden's hotel room and handed him an $80,000 diamond in person (oh wait)


Cool. Have the DOJ investigate then and coordinate with the existing institutions. Here's what you don't do: use Rudy Giuliani to undermine your diplomats. This wouldn't be a fucking issue at all if it was out in the open. This isn't rocket science here.
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Nov 13 2019 09:08pm
Quote (thundercock @ Nov 13 2019 09:07pm)
Cool. Have the DOJ investigate then and coordinate with the existing institutions. Here's what you don't do: use Rudy Giuliani to undermine your diplomats. This wouldn't be a fucking issue at all if it was out in the open. This isn't rocket science here.


what possible domestic law violations would the DOJ investigate? This is all in Ukrainian jurisdiction. And since when would democrats be okay with Trump directing his DoJ to investigate a political rival?
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#240
Nov 13 2019 09:09pm
Extremely rare video of Goomshill, who in fact "survived" the Yellowstone volcano unlike we were led to believe in earlier reports. This reporter has in fact tied this broadcast to one of Goom's earliest known IP addresses.











:lol:



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^Goomshill

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