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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 2 Mar 2023 19:49)
Imagine someone accepting reality?
Well its not difficult for all of us, only you it appears.


Imagine someone saying that:

- Russia will win war in few months
- Ukrainian civilians are not targetted
- NATO is a threat to the Russian Empire :o
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Mar 2 2023 01:30pm
What the fuck are the Russian military command doing in Vuhledar? Worse than WW1 tactics
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Mar 2 2023 01:35pm
a video from the european parliament:

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a video from the european parliament:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSshfYwvftM


mick wallace, very interesting character for sure. generally, i'd consider his heart in the right place (he condemned the russian invasion of ukraine btw), but he often gets carried away with his contrarian positions and self-righteousness.

that said, i very much agree with his comments on american foreign policy, and european (including german) arms exports to terrorist nations like saudi-arabia, turkey, israel...

still, my core issue with highlighting this remains: two wrongs don't make a right. you might be able to silence people who uncritically support american foreign policy that way, but to any principled person, who also opposes those injustices, it's just a silly attempt to bothsides a brutal war, the murdering of countless innocent people for national interests.
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Quote (ferdia @ 2 Mar 2023 20:35)
a video from the european parliament:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSshfYwvftM


This is off topic imho. He did not open his mouth about the dozens of millions people who died because of China or USSR...
In before "The Matrix got exposed"... We have several like this in France too... Hopefully he has plenty of solutions I'm sure of this buehehe.

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https://twitter.com/wallacemick/status/1504139126790291457
Another populist hack spotted.


Quote (dro94 @ 2 Mar 2023 20:30)
What the fuck are the Russian military command doing in Vuhledar? Worse than WW1 tactics


This ?
https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-won-largest-tank-battle-221100247.html

Answer is in the question: their commanders are doing it wrong and this is another the proof that Russia did not resolve its military issues since the start of the invasion.
Many of them are just miserable alcoholics sending hundreds to death, they probably hate themselves.

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and that number tells you "There has never been deliberate killing of civilians by Russian military command."? can you explain that "logic"?


if there was deliberate systematic killing of civilians, that number would be 10x if not more.

The ratio is low comparatively speaking.

Compare it to the vietnam war, 21000 (low-end) - 105000(high-end) civilian deaths per year.

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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 2 2023 09:25pm)
If by realist you mean sociopath then completely agree. Your self association to Kissinger sounds like a you problem that I'm not willing to indulge; Advocating an amoral reality is a psychological inferiority manifesting itself.


Politics are amoral, perhaps you are at the wrong place.

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if there was deliberate systematic killing of civilians, that number would be 10x if not more.


no. that's just an arbitrary number you came up with to downplay russia's demonstrable deliberate killing of civilians. there is no actual reasoning or logic behind your claim. again, "deliberately" does not mean "exclusively" or "systematically" or "predominantly" or "extensively" or whatever cheap semantic pivot you want to try next. they deliberately targeted civilians, and over 8,000 died. those are facts. ask your handlers for better talking points. that one has been debunked by countless reports...
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Quote (fender @ Mar 2 2023 03:59pm)
no. that's just an arbitrary number you came up with to downplay russia's demonstrable deliberate killing of civilians. there is no actual reasoning or logic behind your claim. again, "deliberately" does not mean "exclusively" or "systematically" or "predominantly" or "extensively" or whatever cheap semantic pivot you want to try next. they deliberately targeted civilians, and over 8,000 died. those are facts. ask your handlers for better talking points. that one has been debunked by countless reports...


My handler is gonna fire me if you keep debunking all the good anti western talking points, please Fender I need to eat. Russia is very serious about controlling the narrative in this thread, there are at least 4 or 5 of our agents here to ensure this.
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Mar 2 2023 02:10pm
Quote (ownyaah @ 2 Mar 2023 20:54)
if there was deliberate systematic killing of civilians, that number would be 10x if not more.

The ratio is low comparatively speaking.

Compare it to the vietnam war, 21000 (low-end) - 105000(high-end) civilian deaths per year.


"Deliberate targeting of civilians for the purpose of waging a terror campaign/psychological warfare/breaking the defender's resolve" is different from "trying to kill as many civilians as you possibly can". :rolleyes:
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