Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 2 2023 09:20pm)

What about special military operations?

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 2 2023 02:15pm)

Do I accept that information war is an aspect of war. Yes, I think we all agree it is.
We have seen how willing Russia is to throw its own men into the meatgrinder, it is not a long journey from there to assume they would have the same disdain for Ukrainian lives.

Furthermore, the question of whether or not the action was deliberate is important; but it is secondary to the abhorrence of the consequences of the action.

If I am honest I think you are being quite obtuse about not recognizing just how many strikes there have been that have hit apartment buildings, shopping malls, hospitals, schools and so on; And not exclusively on the front lines, this is well into Ukrainian interior.

Quote (ownyaah @ Mar 2 2023 06:12pm)

Henry kissinger was a realist, and i respect that. I take that as a compliment.



There has never been deliberate killing of civilians by Russian military command. It is factual, you have to be braindamaged to think otherwise.



can you explain how it would be possible to conduct war, in a pre-war population of 50million, without causing xk amounts of civilian deaths per year?

The answer is --> no war at all.

Quote (ownyaah @ 2 Mar 2023 19:18)

I only look at UN numbers btw, which is 8100 in 1 full year.

Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Mar 2 2023 06:24pm)

It is primary to this conversation though because that is what it has been about since I quoted Xisten. If you want to read back through it you will see that has been the main issue I've been asking about.

I'm sure you do think I'm being obtuse but I don't really care because you seem like the least educated on this topic in the thread. I'm not even trying to be insulting.

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 2 2023 02:27pm)

In your opinion it matters. In the opinion of myself and most likely to the families of those were killed. It does not matter.

Discuss away on the intentions. The bottom line is Putin has turned Russia into a terrorist state.

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 2 2023 04:58pm)

Lets have it one more time for posterity,

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 2 2023 04:58pm)

Ukraine is a testing ground for NATO weapons

Quote (Djunior @ Mar 2 2023 06:43pm)

Lets have this one more time for posterity

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 2 2023 07:27pm)

In your opinion it matters. In the opinion of myself and most likely to the families of those were killed. It does not matter.

Discuss away on the intentions. The bottom line is Putin has turned Russia into a terrorist state.

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 2 2023 07:45pm)

Absolutely true statement; Because it upsets you, doesn't make it less true.
NATO is getting real-time information on a near peer adversary. Its not a particularly challenging concept.

Quote (Djunior @ Mar 2 2023 06:48pm)

I hope you heard what was said about the bombing of Nord Stream --> an act of international terrorism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQKt0xLgxac




Upsets me? I'm using to this to show everyone what a POS you really are.

Imagine someone here claiming Ukraine is a testing ground for Russia, lol.

You're out of your mind buddy