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Mar 1 2023 12:15pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 1 2023 06:32pm)
Iraq in 1988 had a rapidly growing population with a huge surplus of young people. Russia in 2022/23 has atrocious demographics and can barely afford to lose anyone from the perspective of their long-term economic and social outlook.

Yes, Russia could definitely field 1+ million men if they wanted to, but the long-term damage this would inflict on them would be gigantic. Contrast this with Iraq in 1988, where getting rid of their excess of young men without perspective (by using them as cannon fodder) was no big deal, and might even have been a net positive for their country's long-term outlook.


Not long ago you were claiming that the sanctions were going to cripple Russia. Reality check: Russia evades the sanctions just like all other sanctioned nations do.

Now Russia is running out of people? Reality check: Ukraine is running out of people. A much smaller population to start with, a whole bunch fled the country, another bunch died at the front, I've heard reports that at this point there could only be ~25 Million Ukrainians left in Ukraine.

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Mar 1 2023 12:17pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 1 2023 05:25pm)
That is not easy reading, I can't really formulate a response.


Just to be clear, other users are giving you a response here and i do not agree with all of them. just stating this for the record.
i.e. the comments above from ownyaah are quite removed from my view "The main reason American troops aren´t fighting directly is because China would intervene" <-- THIS IS NOT MY VIEW.
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Quote (ferdia @ Mar 1 2023 12:17pm)
Just to be clear, other users are giving you a response here and i do not agree with all of them. just stating this for the record.
i.e. the comments above from ownyaah are quite removed from my view "The main reason American troops aren´t fighting directly is because China would intervene" <-- THIS IS NOT MY VIEW.


the main reason american troops aren't fighting directly is because we're in a NO WAR phase. same happened after Vietnam. we do war, it goes poorly, and not POTUS dares to enter us into a new war physically for a few decades until the anti-war sentiments die down enough for them to drag us back into another shit storm. post ww1, post ww2, post vietnam, post iraq1, post iraq2-afghanistan. all the same.

the Korean war exemplifies this, we simply didnt have enough will to fight properly in a post ww2 era. and thats an era where we had won the previous war resoundingly. still we tossed men into the wood chipper to only secure half of a country that was rural farmers just to kick off the cold war.

unless there is a nuke detonnated, and even if there is one, i highly doubt any president from Biden to Desantis to Trump would intervene. at that point you just draw a big circle around russia and say anyone who trades with them doesnt trade with us until their leaders crawl before an international court with a gallows behind it.
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Quote (ferdia @ Mar 1 2023 09:17pm)
Just to be clear, other users are giving you a response here and i do not agree with all of them. just stating this for the record.
i.e. the comments above from ownyaah are quite removed from my view "The main reason American troops aren´t fighting directly is because China would intervene" <-- THIS IS NOT MY VIEW.


I think the main reason is that Ukraine isn´t important enough for American lives to be used. China being forced to act, in that scenario is secondary.

Either way, it has nothing to do with nukes was my point.

This post was edited by ownyaah on Mar 1 2023 12:26pm
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Quote (ferdia @ Mar 1 2023 06:17pm)
Just to be clear, other users are giving you a response here and i do not agree with all of them. just stating this for the record.
i.e. the comments above from ownyaah are quite removed from my view "The main reason American troops aren´t fighting directly is because China would intervene" <-- THIS IS NOT MY VIEW.


Noted.
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Mar 1 2023 12:30pm
Russia "crippled by sanctions" but it's navy receiving 2 brand new nuclear subs in 2023.

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Mar 1 2023 12:31pm
Quote (Djunior @ Mar 1 2023 06:15pm)
Not long ago you were claiming that the sanctions were going to cripple Russia. Reality check: Russia evades the sanctions just like all other sanctioned nations do.

Now Russia is running out of people? Reality check: Ukraine is running out of people. A much smaller population to start with, a whole bunch fled the country, another bunch died at the front, I've heard reports that at this point there could only be ~25 Million Ukrainians left in Ukraine.


Nowhere did he say Russia is running out of people; That is false attribution comrade.
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Quote (Djunior @ Mar 1 2023 06:30pm)
Russia "crippled by sanctions" but it's navy receiving 2 brand new nuclear subs in 2023.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re943UBV1as


Oh Russia finished building 2 submarines it started building when? :wallbash:

Your a total hack, guy.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Mar 1 2023 12:32pm
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 1 2023 07:31pm)
Nowhere did he say Russia is running out of people; That is false attribution comrade.


Not the exact words but he DID

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Russia in 2022/23 has atrocious demographics and can barely afford to lose anyone from the perspective of their long-term economic and social outlook.


Now THATS false considering they're emptying their prisons and using those guys for the heaviest fighting.


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Oh Russia finished building 2 submarines it started building when? :wallbash:

Your a total hack, guy.


Nuclear subs are the pinnacle of high tech, every bit needed to build / finish them would def be on the sanctions list you drone.

You sound terribly upset btw, why is that? Cuz your beloved trash propaganda is shown to be trash? Drone
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Quote (Djunior @ Mar 1 2023 06:54pm)
Not the exact words but he DID



Now THATS false considering they're emptying their prisons and using those guys for the heaviest fighting.




Nuclear subs are the pinnacle of high tech, every bit needed to build / finish them would def be on the sanctions list you drone.

You sound terribly upset btw, why is that? Cuz your beloved trash propaganda is shown to be trash? Drone


Its embarrassing that you actually believe your own drivel :rofl:
The Soviets were always pretty good at gymnastics and now your applying that to logical reasoning.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Mar 1 2023 01:04pm
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