Quote (ofthevoid @ 1 Oct 2020 20:40)

Banning fracking at this point is kind of dumb anyways. This industry is organically dying with oil so cheap and fracking actually being one of the more expensive ways to extract oil. Why ban it when EV is taking over and if you look at most oil companies are already shutting down uneconomical wells?

^thundercock we've been over this. Him saying 'i condemn all violence' is weasel politician talk, that's actually not condemning violence. Literally no one cares about this canned politically safe response. You think those benzo'd out part time Starbucks baristas in Portland are going to stop because old Uncle Joe condemned all violence? Like lets be honest, that is the issue and he's been skirting around it, and he will continue to skirt around it because he doesn't want to lose the dumb fuck left. In reality Joe probably wants to send in the national guard and stop that nonsense but he won't do it because he knows what it'd mean for him politically.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 1 2020 11:40am)

Banning fracking at this point is kind of dumb anyways. This industry is organically dying with oil so cheap and fracking actually being one of the more expensive ways to extract oil. Why ban it when EV is taking over and if you look at most oil companies are already shutting down uneconomical wells?

^thundercock we've been over this. Him saying 'i condemn all violence' is weasel politician talk, that's actually not condemning violence. Literally no one cares about this canned politically safe response. You think those benzo'd out part time Starbucks baristas in Portland are going to stop because old Uncle Joe condemned all violence? Like lets be honest, that is the issue and he's been skirting around it, and he will continue to skirt around it because he doesn't want to lose the dumb fuck left. In reality Joe probably wants to send in the national guard and stop that nonsense but he won't do it because he knows what it'd mean for him politically.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 1 2020 02:44pm)

Agreed, but if we're honest, Trump is doing the exact same thing with regard to Proud Boys and other right-wing nutters.

Quote (thundercock @ Oct 1 2020 02:49pm)

Ok so it's a non-issue then? I feel like you could use the exact same logic on Trump re: white supremacy. "Trump saying 'I condemn white supremacy' is just weasel politician talk that's not actually condemning it."

Personally, I think all this antifa shit is all sensationalized. Organized crime is and always will be far worse and destructive. That doesn't mean we condone it (people should be arrested), but it's just an issue to spook the right wing (similar to the 'migrant caravan' that mysteriously disappeared after the 2018 election).

Quote (darkhead69 @ Oct 1 2020 01:57pm)

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 1 2020 02:44pm)

Agreed, but if we're honest, Trump is doing the exact same thing with regard to Proud Boys and other right-wing nutters.

Quote (darkhead69 @ Oct 1 2020 03:34pm)

isnt the purpose of proud boys to ensure antifah doesnt attack people are do anything stupid ? and arent the heads of it black men ? i know for a fact antifah are funded by left wing donors and put there to cause chaos , thats why they have been labeled a terror group, and werent the top brass of antifah trained by groups in northern syria ?

Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 1 2020 11:58am)

I really like ratios. It tells me a lot about the world. If we look at how much we can attribute to proud boys or whatever other right wing group it's like 1/50 of what Antifa has done in the last year or so. Like that's such an important point to consider in judging the impact and importance of comparing the two.



But Biden hasn't gone that far and said 'i condemn far left groups' at least to my knowledge.

People keep saying it's sensationalized but it's pretty evident and personally tangible to so many people. Like I live in medium sized city ~300k in the northeast. We've had Antifa/BLM riots with people shot, with people ran over, with monuments destroyed, with fed/city building destroyed, with businesses looted, with Arab store owner coming out with an AK and spraying it so his business doesn't get robbed, etc. Like that shit is real in a small-medium sized city.

Proud boys, KKK, whoever else? Literally never seen any one of these in my life.