I don't know, wherever they deemed it to be the most strategically useful. Maybe Kiev, maybe a large concentration of troops in another part of the country.

they still have 1 strategy from the WW2 days they haven't tried yet, give 1 soldier a gun and the next soldier in line a box of bullets. super secret money saving trick that Ukraine will never see coming.

So what are the possible consequences of that do you think?
In my mind,
Certainly the destruction of Kiev.
Immediate/imminent death of 1-2 million people.
Most likely the end of a functioning autonomous Ukrainian state.
A guaranteed radioactive wasteland directly next to your own border and your allies border.
Possibly eliminate any legitimacy of your pretext for invasion with allies (China specifically) and domestically.

That is not even getting into possible repercussions from NATO for using a nuclear weapon on the European continent; To answer your question whether I think the US would retaliate with a nuke over this hypothetical attack. No. I don't think that makes sense. I think a massive conventional strike on Russian presence in Ukraine/black sea.


Is this really a potential sum gain for Russia in your mind?

Well it did work the last time Russia was threatened by nazis with German tanks. If it ain't broke.

yes that, is that not enough ?

Russia is at war, what could Russia do? keep at it. If your response is "but Russia will suffer if it sends all its men to war" my response is: The Russian government does not care (in my opinion).

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 1 2023 10:08am

If only they can convince Zeldog to invade them ala Napoleon/Hitler, the war is won.

Enough to deter allies from sending Ukraine systems that could potentially strike Russia's interior?

No.

Are you really giving out about US restraint ?

What?

The US is purposely not giving Ukraine long range missiles / jets etc as THEY understand that this would put the war into uncharted territory that they (the US) might not have an exit strategy for. At a certain point in wars stuff happens that you can not reverse.

As an example: the peace treaty of last year was abandoned - as a consequence any new settlement will be worse for Ukraine.

So putting this into context: If Ukraine were to cause symbolic damage to Russia, Russia may take steps which do not have a reverse pedal and with each escalation we move closer and closer to a direct conflict between Nato (US) and Russia, which to be clear: the US DOES NOT WANT (Neither does Russia).

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 1 2023 10:24am