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Feb 28 2023 02:34pm
Quote (Djunior @ Feb 28 2023 07:32pm)
Bring back Trump, fuck Ukraine and fuck the globalists and "progressive" clowns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkQG2PBQ_48


by far the best thing trump has done, no new wars and talks between countries that wouldnt even talk to each other before
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Feb 28 2023 02:45pm
sup guys

hamster is drunk now.............
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Feb 28 2023 03:01pm
Quote (ferdia @ Feb 28 2023 05:20pm)
i dont completely agree with this position. but regardless, they should have waited until putin was gone before testing the waters, is my view. to be safe.


While I can see the logic in this, 40 million people should never have to wait for one person.
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Feb 28 2023 03:03pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Feb 28 2023 03:01pm)
While I can see the logic in this, 40 million people should never have to wait for one person.


Also what signals, if any, are there that Putin is the only thing preventing Russia from modernizing? and also what chance is there that is successor is any different?
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Feb 28 2023 03:10pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Feb 28 2023 09:03pm)
Also what signals, if any, are there that Putin is the only thing preventing Russia from modernizing? and also what chance is there that is successor is any different?


The biggest disappointment is this had to happen at all, for Ukrainians, for Russians, for Europe and for the planet; Lets make no mistake the blame lies firmly at Putin's door.
But aside from Putin, Russia faces massive geopolitical and demographic problems.

There is no denying that under Putin's tenure Russian quality of life and GDPP has increased exponentially. Though that is heavily tied to the price of gas/oil over that period.
The economy is criminally undiversified, corruption is rife and so is inequality.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Feb 28 2023 03:10pm
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Feb 28 2023 03:10pm)
The biggest disappointment is this had to happen at all, for Ukrainians, for Russians, for Europe and for the planet; Lets make no mistake the blame lies firmly at Putin's door.
But aside from Putin, Russia faces massive geopolitical and demographic problems.

There is no denying that under Putin's tenure Russian quality of life and GDPP has increased exponentially. Though that is heavily tied to the price of gas/oil over that period.
The economy is criminally undiversified, corruption is rife and so is inequality.


it would have been hard for him to drive the economy lower honestly. you're right, he rode a gas price increase up and did nothing to diversify. criminally undiversified is the perfect description.
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Feb 28 2023 03:17pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 28 Feb 2023 22:01)
While I can see the logic in this, 40 million people should never have to wait for one person.


it also reveals a core ignorance to russian politics. who will follow pootin? whoever HE chooses to take his place of course. also, the notion that you should wait to seek protection from the immediate threat you are facing until that threat simply doesn't exist any longer is just ridiculous on its face.
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Feb 28 2023 04:19pm
a debate here ~ i admit its a bit rowdy at times - just like in here. We can see the same conversations that we had.



This post was edited by ferdia on Feb 28 2023 04:27pm
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Feb 28 2023 01:45pm)
this in an impossible question to answer, up there with please provide what percent of global warming is due to human activity within a 95% confidence interval.

I mean like half of us in this thread that are labeled pro-Russian all we do is say hey look at all of these preceding events in the last 20-40 years, might they have some explanation of why things are the way they are?

It's not as if we're pro-Russian because we want our country to look like Russia or think it's leaders are great, because they're obviously not or because hate America, it's about being annoyed by propaganda plastered all over our media with "Russia starts unprovoked war" or the fact we live in a world where rules based order is just synonymous with rules for thee and not for me mentality.


This is what gets me, to be honest. The level of discourse is so low generally as to be found insulting.
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Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 28 Feb 2023 12:46)
*bunch of anti-vaxx conspiracies, science- and reality denial*


cool and irrelevant story, bro.

unfortunately for you, your posts still exist, so everyone can read your fails, kremlin bot. no need to pretend you weren't THAT wrong, when your posts prove the opposite, when they show how you uncritically accepted every single stupid kremlin narrative along the way, from 'they would never attack, it's all just western disinformation' to 'they are trying to de-nazify ukraine' (with nazi mercenaries btw) to 'they are just liberating their own people'... there wasn't an excuse dumb or flimsy enough for you not to make. you went all-in on trying to downplay / justify pootin's murdering of women and children, his destruction of a whole country in order to add some territories to his rotten empire.

you're just another kremlin NPC, trying to bothsides the murder of innocent civilians. you can't re-write history, ampootin. you can try, but everyone here sees you for what you truly are, kremlin bot.

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