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Feb 28 2023 07:41am
Quote (Djunior @ Feb 28 2023 04:02am)


We're talking about negotiations on the highest level. To justify this behavior is insane and you ARE indeed justifying it (we just fooled them, lol, is basically what you say).

Of course there's no way the West can get away with this, the other side knows we're not trustworthy which is the worst starting position for future negotiations. Well done, lol


No, we aren't. negotiations on the highest level have their terms put on paper. treaties, trade deals, ceasefires, etc.

This wasn't a midtown drug deal, and it wasn't a binding negotiation. it was 2 diplomats with a solid degree of power to do initial negotiations for their country at the height of the cold war easing tensions when nuclear weapons were involved. it wasn't a 50-100 year legally binding deal, ever. if it was, it would be on paper, or at the least the POTUS would be on record affirming it.

Biden and Trump made more vocal affirmations about the Afghanistan withdrawal in a few year period than all presidents since this "deal" was struck made combined.
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Feb 28 2023 07:42am
Quote (Djunior @ Feb 28 2023 01:39pm)
If the announcement (NATO accepts future Ukraine membership) would've come earlier then this war would've started earlier.

And you're dodging. NATO is running the show in Ukraine, not Zelensky is what we were discussing.


There is no dodge. Your statement is false. "Bear in mind NATO is de facto laying claim to Russia's naval base"

Crimea is Ukraine, not Russia.
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Feb 28 2023 08:00am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Feb 28 2023 02:42pm)
There is no dodge. Your statement is false. "Bear in mind NATO is de facto laying claim to Russia's naval base"

Crimea is Ukraine, not Russia.


ukraine IS russia. 99%of crimeas peoples ARE russian.

wtf you talking?
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Feb 28 2023 08:11am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Feb 28 2023 09:42am)
Crimea is Ukraine, not Russia.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Crimea_(1992%E2%80%931995)

This post was edited by DizzyBusiness on Feb 28 2023 08:13am
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Feb 28 2023 08:15am
Quote (thesnipa @ Feb 28 2023 02:41pm)
No, we aren't. negotiations on the highest level have their terms put on paper. treaties, trade deals, ceasefires, etc.

This wasn't a midtown drug deal, and it wasn't a binding negotiation. it was 2 diplomats with a solid degree of power to do initial negotiations for their country at the height of the cold war easing tensions when nuclear weapons were involved. it wasn't a 50-100 year legally binding deal, ever. if it was, it would be on paper, or at the least the POTUS would be on record affirming it.

Biden and Trump made more vocal affirmations about the Afghanistan withdrawal in a few year period than all presidents since this "deal" was struck made combined.


And you wonder why the Russians don't trust us?


Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Feb 28 2023 02:42pm)
There is no dodge. Your statement is false. "Bear in mind NATO is de facto laying claim to Russia's naval base"

Crimea is Ukraine, not Russia.


No I did not say that, I said NATO is running the show.

Stop being dishonest
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Feb 28 2023 08:16am
Quote (Bananii @ Feb 28 2023 02:00pm)
ukraine IS russia. 99%of crimeas peoples ARE russian.

wtf you talking?


He's from Scotland.
You'll find it in dictionary under "UK's insignificant bitch".

Those people dont know shit about fuck. Literally deprived of education and independence for generations. Whatever is on TV is the factual truth and there's no pushback on anything.
Give it a year and this guy will be telling you how banning beef is indeed a great move and eating insects makes him feel great, cos that's current narrative.
I'll take a wild guess and asume he has 2 jabs + at least 2 boosters, but lets try to find out.
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Feb 28 2023 08:30am
Quote (SylvesterStallone @ Feb 28 2023 03:16pm)
He's from Scotland.
You'll find it in dictionary under "UK's insignificant bitch".

Those people dont know shit about fuck. Literally deprived of education and independence for generations. Whatever is on TV is the factual truth and there's no pushback on anything.
Give it a year and this guy will be telling you how banning beef is indeed a great move and eating insects makes him feel great, cos that's current narrative.
I'll take a wild guess and asume he has 2 jabs + at least 2 boosters, but lets try to find out.



we discussed this shit 1000 pages ago, thats just ignorant af :wacko:
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Feb 28 2023 08:33am
Here is video of what the road from Soledar to Bakhmut looks like. Horrible amount of destruction.

https://youtu.be/nglrz4U7ous
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Feb 28 2023 08:52am
Quote (Djunior @ Feb 28 2023 08:15am)
And you wonder why the Russians don't trust us?




No I did not say that, I said NATO is running the show.

Stop being dishonest


no, i dont wonder. i never have. you've told me why i wonder dozens of times, ive never wondered.

2 bitter enemies got into a room and made an unofficial handshake. since then we've been in numerous proxy wars and conflicts. we've actually nearly come to blows a few times. we've been enemies still, post cold war there was no ease of tensions.

they never trusted us, we never trusted them. that is why the "deal" wasn't justification for the war. was it bad of us to do? yes, as ive stated many times. is it justification for a war? no.

you just have no vision for grey, and no comprehension of what you're told numerous times.
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Feb 28 2023 09:12am
Quote (Bananii @ Feb 28 2023 02:30pm)
we discussed this shit 1000 pages ago, thats just ignorant af :wacko:


Inbred history with people deprived of education.
British empire and its horrors are still present today. Its crazy
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