never was on paper, it was a handshake between two bitter enemies behind closed doors at the peak of the cold war. and we both know it. im just honest enough to admit that promise wasn't worth the paper it wasn't written on, whereas you act like it was biblical fact.

was it dishonest for the west to break an "agreement", even as shaky of an agreement as it was? yes, of course. im not a defender of western govt nor NATO, as much as you like to pretend i am. i'm just being realistic, it was a spit shake between 2 diplomats, and that was all it ever was.

lmk when you get tired of uncritically regurgitating kremlin propaganda, ampootin. the whole world knows that the little green men in donbas weren't "civilians", lol.

actual civilians that ukraine politically oppressed are a fair point to make - but that's a whole different story than the russian spin about ukraine indiscriminately shelling poor, innocent civilians for years, and russia merely "liberating" them (by murdering tens of thousands and completely destroying the whole country).

i told you before, i am well aware that ukrainian leadership are no angels, that corruption and representation are serious issues - but none of that justifies a war killing tens of thousands in order to conquer territory that simply doesn't belong to you.

it's amazing how you keep making excuses for the dictator again and again, yet still clutch your pearls when people call you a russian propaganda bot, lol.

are you a bit slow, mate? ukraine never was in NATO, and wasn't gonna join any time soon. even a future NATO membership still would NOT have annulled the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_Treaty_on_the_Status_and_Conditions_of_the_Black_Sea_Fleet and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kharkiv_Pact treaties. russia would still have had the option to remain in and operate its base to the agreed upon conditions.
i get that you have to shill for pootin since tucker told you to, but that doesn't magically change the facts about what NATO "owns" and what it doesn't, lol. maybe try a different lie, because this one is comprehensively debunked, you bot. xD

(western) Ukraine is under NATO control right now. They are a puppet state, with no autonomy, serving a proxy war.
NATO is micromanaging both their government and their military, directing NATO equipped troops and NATO mercenaries using NATO intelligence and NATO weaponry.
At least Russia's little green men were deployed with a pretense. NATO isn't being coy about this war, Joe Biden was just in Ukraine last week

Some reading material for you Fenderp

https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/07/24/ukraine-unguided-rockets-killing-civilians

dancing on eggshells sweetheart

once again, nobody is making excuses for anyone, i dont have to and i dont want to, i am still waiting for the post where i ever made justifications for the invasion, there are none

the west not stopping ukranian nationalists served putin his favorite "gotta save my guys" play on a silver platter

loads of people predicted this exact scenario, including western powers themselves

your black and white hysteria is just wrong fenderp, the invasion being inexcusable and western powers dancing on putins nose until it finally happened can both be true

of course thats too much for you

What US military base is in Kazakhstan? Share me the link.

wrong. more lies. if ukraine stops fighting tomorrow, there's nothing NATO can do. the fact that NATO is providing them with the means to DEFEND themselves does NOT mean ukraine is suddenly "NATO" now.

there's a really easy way to verify that: article 5 has not been triggered. if ukraine actually WAS in NATO, pootin would not have attacked - that's why ukraine WANTED to join in the first place.

so, again: the claim that "NATO owned russian naval bases" is demonstrably false. it's a dumb and easily debunked kremlin lie in order to justify murdering tens of thousands of innocent people, that you and your fellow NPCs uncritically accepted. your desperate mental gymnastics won't change the facts of this either, so just stop humiliating yourself, kremlin bot.

By June we will either have nuclear war, Putins disappearance, or negotiations to end the war.

My guess.

Yup, and Russia is losing badly!



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