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Feb 27 2023 02:20pm
Quote (fender @ Feb 27 2023 09:10pm)
another easily debunked kremlin lie. no russian naval base has been taken over by NATO. that's a complete fabrication. imagine defending the murder of tens of thousands of innocent people with such an obvious lie. absolutely disgusting. how does dictator boot taste? i hope you're at least getting paid for your propaganda work here...


Ukraine (Crimea, Sevastopol)

LOL, mindless drone
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Quote (fender @ Feb 27 2023 09:10pm)
another easily debunked kremlin lie. no russian naval base has been taken over by NATO. that's a complete fabrication. imagine defending the murder of tens of thousands of innocent people with such an obvious lie. absolutely disgusting. how does dictator boot taste? i hope you're at least getting paid for your propaganda work here...


meanwhile you are defending killing civilians over multiple years in the donbass ^_^

even your media masters called it out back in the day and demanded to stop it before it becomes worse

and it did, yikes





This post was edited by JohnnyMcCoy on Feb 27 2023 02:29pm
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Quote (Djunior @ Feb 27 2023 07:49pm)
This just in

:rofl: :rofl:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU4uorq7QFc


The fact you refuse to answer the simple question twice, speaks volumes.

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Feb 27 2023 07:52pm)
have you read this act that I posted ?
Or you still believe that Taiwan is a sovereign country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_Relations_Act

And this is about Solomon Island that we are talking about.
Remember the way you admonished how a larger and more powerful country bullying and taking military action against a smaller neighbor or country ?
And it is their sovereign decision to join "Nato " or " EU" because it's their choice ?
And now you are saying Superpowers don't rule out their capabilities. :rofl:


Do you think Ukraine is a sovereign country? What matters is that Taiwanese and Ukrainians believe they are sovereign.

Is this Solomon islands thing really the latest justification for Putins war?
It is getting really threadbare at this point.
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 28 Feb 2023 04:29)
The fact you refuse to answer the simple question twice, speaks volumes.



Do you think Ukraine is a sovereign country? What matters is that Taiwanese and Ukrainians believe they are sovereign.

Is this Solomon islands thing really the latest justification for Putins war?
It is getting really threadbare at this point.


1. On the surface there is no justification of Putin's war . Even the Chinese doesn't recognize Russia's seizure of Crimea, lets not even talk about the current the lands the Russians took.
2. The kingdom of Hawaii probably believe they are sovereign and also the Aborigines in Australia.
3. The TAIWAN ABORIGINES also believe they are sovereign until the HAN KMT AND THE HAN CHINESE that escape from China in the CIVIL war took over their "Lands"
4. Are you trying to dodge about Solomon Islands, You were so adamant on the fact that Russia's invasion was a travesty . And the way you frame your reply by saying superpowers dont rule out their capabilities in regards to the article that I posted that US threatens Solomon Islands with military action if they decided to be chumy with the chinese out of their own free will, already show what stance you are on.
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Feb 27 2023 03:38pm)
1. On the surface there is no justification of Putin's war . Even the Chinese doesn't recognize Russia's seizure of Crimea, lets not even talk about the current the lands the Russians took.
2. The kingdom of Hawaii probably believe they are sovereign and also the Aborigines in Australia.
3. The TAIWAN ABORIGINES also believe they are sovereign until the HAN KMT AND THE HAN CHINESE that escape from China in the CIVIL war took over their "Lands"
4. Are you trying to dodge about Solomon Islands, You were so adamant on the fact that Russia's invasion was a travesty . And the way you frame your reply by saying superpowers dont rule out their capabilities in regards to the article that I posted that US threatens Solomon Islands with military action if they decided to be chumy with the chinese out of their own free will, already show what stance you are on.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/51st_state

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Taiwan
Further information: Political status of Taiwan, Taiwan independence movement, and Taiwan–United States relations
A poll in 2003 among Taiwanese residents aged between 13 and 22 found that, when given the options of either becoming a province of the People's Republic of China or a state within the U.S., 55% of the respondents preferred statehood while 36% chose joining China.[178] A group called Taiwan Civil Government, established in Taipei in 2008, claims that the island of Taiwan and other minor islands are a territory of the United States.[179]


Soon.
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Yup, war is coming. That's why I told some of the users here i.e that it should be around 2030 to 2032.
Which is why I am moving funds back to Singapore and helping the Chinese move funds to Singapore, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.

The previous administration in Taiwan was having such a good relationship with the Chinese government, there wasn't even talk about aggression or reunification. They just pushed everything into the future and say such problems can be solved later.
Until the US backed DPP government came into power , thats where all shit hits the fan. The Chinese even draw a line in the Taiwan Straits and disallowed their military units to cross over during Mah Ying Jeoug's presidency.
They signed FTA and everyone is happily earning money and trading.

What You are seeing now in Taiwan since DPP take over in 2016 is basically the EURO Maiden in the East , although it was not violent and interference in Taiwanese politics helped them won the election and everyone was ok with it.
Because if you don't realized by now, East Asians are exceptionally apolitical.

In 2003, no Taiwanese is crazy in mind to join the Chinese. China was poor as fxxk and backwards then.
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Feb 27 2023 08:38pm)
1. On the surface there is no justification of Putin's war . Even the Chinese doesn't recognize Russia's seizure of Crimea, lets not even talk about the current the lands the Russians took.
2. The kingdom of Hawaii probably believe they are sovereign and also the Aborigines in Australia.
3. The TAIWAN ABORIGINES also believe they are sovereign until the HAN KMT AND THE HAN CHINESE that escape from China in the CIVIL war took over their "Lands"
4. Are you trying to dodge about Solomon Islands, You were so adamant on the fact that Russia's invasion was a travesty . And the way you frame your reply by saying superpowers dont rule out their capabilities in regards to the article that I posted that US threatens Solomon Islands with military action if they decided to be chumy with the chinese out of their own free will, already show what stance you are on.


Is that reaction by the US, the same as Russians invasion of Ukraine, in your opinion?

If the US threatened military action, that is obviously not helpful at all. I don't think a Chinese base on the Solomon islands is helpful either.
I also think its difficult to draw any obvious comparison between the Russia Ukraine situation, either than really Taiwan and China; Even then it is not 1:1.

It is important to point out that opposing Russia's invasion does not automatically mean that I support everything the US/NATO does or has done. There have been abhorrent acts committed in the name of "Western values" when really it was a military industrial complex gone insane.
At the same time, it is not helpful to constantly frame the discussion about Ukraine with arguments about the Vietnam war, threats over a Chinese naval base in the Solomon islands or "insert anti west point scoring propaganda" here.

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Is that reaction by the US, the same as Russians invasion of Ukraine, in your opinion?

If the US threatened military action, that is obviously not helpful at all. I don't think a Chinese base on the Solomon islands is helpful either.
I also think its difficult to draw any obvious comparison between the Russia Ukraine situation, either than really Taiwan and China; Even then it is not 1:1.

It is important to point out that opposing Russia's invasion does not automatically mean that I support everything the US/NATO does or has done. There have been abhorrent acts committed in the name of "Western values" when really it was a military industrial complex gone insane.
At the same time, it is not helpful to constantly frame the discussion about Ukraine with arguments about the Vietnam war, threats over a Chinese naval base in the Solomon islands or "insert anti west point scoring propaganda" here.


Ok now you are going back to how you talk three months back.

Let me explain my point of view.

Whether is there a Chinese base in Solomon Islands or not is a decision that is made between two sovereign countries in a strategic partnership.
The same can be said between Ukraine and Nato / EU it is their sovereign decision and their government's decision.

Whether the US /Australia or Russia feeling threaten has got nothing to do with Sovereign nations making their own decisions.
That being said, because these are superpowers we are talking about, they work in a different manner and more often than not, goes against the United Nations and rules that are being laid out. This is a reality, it is something we cannot prevent.
That is why I would like to have more Super powers, USA , EU ( without NATO ) , Russia , Asean , United Africa and even United South America to keep everyone in check.

To understand why some of us are Anti West, which we are not. We are just Anti US Government.
I don't see the Chinese or even us in South East Asia being Anti EU, Anti Australia, Anti Scotland etc etc. This is where I think you get it quite wrong. It is not Anti West. It is Anti US Government.

The Vietnam war was a pragmatic move by the United States, a lot of people are against it , but there are also some of us who are happy that it happened. Because it prevented and exhausted the Red Wave from moving down South to Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore and Indonesia.

The Ukraine war is , in my opinion is a Democrat led event and I look at it more as a personal reason to trigger it by some bigwigs in the American political scene rather then something strategic.

Like I said, although Trump is not the most savvy President. He would have prevented it from happening. And Putin would have sat down and made some arrangements and negotiations and this wouldn't have happened.

This is just my opinion.

As for China and Taiwan. It is basically and technically a North and South Korea.
It is a ceasefire.

North and South Korea will reunify one day , whether in the next 50 or 100 years they will still reunify.
The same goes for China and Taiwan.

The only numbers we will be concern with is how many people will be dead if the reunification isn't peaceful.

And if a reunification in Taiwan happens in 2030.

I will wait for the world to sanction China and Hong Kong so the property market will collapse aboud 60% to 70% so I can grab a few . Because I am leaving some cash in Hong Kong and moving 80
% of what I have back to Singapore.


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Quote (Goomshill @ 27 Feb 2023 21:19)
So crimea belongs to Russia, good we've got that sorted out


no, crimea belongs to ukraine, goon-shill. russia is illegally occupying it. try to keep up, lol.

Quote (Djunior @ 27 Feb 2023 21:20)
Ukraine (Crimea, Sevastopol)


yes? how does simply naming that place prove your baseless claim that "NATO has taken over russian naval bases"? oh right, it doesn't, it's just another dumb kremlin narrative that you keep throwing around - but have no arguments to back it up.

maybe educate yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_Treaty_on_the_Status_and_Conditions_of_the_Black_Sea_Fleet

at no point did NATO have control over the base, kremlin bot.
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Quote (fender @ Feb 27 2023 03:22pm)
no, crimea belongs to ukraine, goon-shill. russia is illegally occupying it. try to keep up, lol.


So the Russian naval base belongs to Ukraine, therefore, NATO

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at no point did NATO have control over the base, kremlin bot.


Oh, so crimea belongs to Russia, good we've got that sorted out, again.
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