Not a rumour
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early

I can show you one treaty where US fuck the Taiwanese and Chinese at the same time though.

I am not saying what the US did is wrong. It was just pragmatic at that point of time.

And I wouldn't be surprised if there is gentlemen promise from " some of the US administration " not to move East towards Russia.
Just saying.

Here is the treaty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_Relations_Act

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Feb 27 2023 01:18pm

You're completely dishonest.

THIS is how the Western world reacts when tiny Solomon Island negotiates a security deal with China https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/20/the-deal-that-shocked-the-world-inside-the-china-solomons-security-pact

NOTE THE BOLDED (quote from article)



That's 2000 km from Australia, lol. Now imagine a military alliance taking over countries in EU, one after the other JUST LIKE NATO DOES.

Clowns


This post was edited by Djunior on Feb 27 2023 01:22pm

Peak dishonesty. Anyone surprised that Russia doesn't want anything to do with the West anymore?

BTW you two should check out my previous post. LOL

My personal opinion.
I think the Biden Government made a rather retarded mistake of pulling out from Afghanistan and triggering the Ukraine War, of course with Victoria Nuland and Co.,

They could have just followed Trump's administration of building back and stabilize relationship with Putin.
If that happens. this will follow.

1. Putin will not open up central Asia for China's BRI
2. There will still be some forces in Afghanistan to prevent and cock block China's entrance into Afghanistan to build in roads to connect to Pakistan and Iran for their belt and Road project.
3. Revive Obama's TPP which will create a FTA group of countries that includes Japan, Indonesia, Singapore, India, Philippines , South Korea and contain the Chinese by the Sea Route and straits of Malacca.

But of course, you decided to go all in with Ukraine and Russia .

If the above plans out as it is , this will stifle China's emergence for at least another 20 to 30 years so the US can do some house cleaning instead of spending that amount of money on Ukraine and reinvigorate their Global position.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Feb 27 2023 01:33pm

where is the "dishonesty"? you might not understand the difference between "were led to believe" (by a former US secretary of state, decades ago - not a promise or even a treaty by NATO leadership) and a treaty, but those are not the same. russia has signed countless ACTUAL treaties and has officially acknowledged ukrainian borders repeatedly - and then broken those treaties and ACTUAL promises repeatedly, killing thousands of innocent people in order to annex foreign territory. you'd have to be incredibly stupid, dishonest, or just a kremlin bot not to understand the difference.

concerning the whataboutism in your previous post: i take it NATO has since invaded the solomon islands militarily for you to have an actual "argument"? oh wait, that never happened. thanks for proving my point, bot. xD

This post was edited by fender on Feb 27 2023 01:38pm

The US and Australia sent representatives to the Solomon islands? I mean it seems reasonable, it is what reasonable countries do; In your mind, is that responsive the same as Russians invasion of Ukraine?
Why is Russia fine about Finland joining NATO? Fins could have a late breakfast, set off and be in St. Petersburg by lunchtime.

Since when does NATO "take over" countries. That is the key difference here. You ask to join NATO; Russia is forcibly occupying another countries territory.
How are those things the same in your mind? If after all you are not bias in any way towards Russia.

This is some of the lowest level logic in this entire 900 page thread.

Reasonable.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/26/us-wont-rule-out-military-action-if-china-establishes-base-in-solomon-islands

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Feb 27 2023 01:45pm

"were led to believe"

LOL thx for proving my point, drone. Peak dishonesty



The West's gravest fears: A tiny Island group negotiating a security agreement with China while at the same time claiming Russia has no point whatsoever when complaining about ongoing NATO expansion for decades

That guy is a complete clown, lol

Hopeless case