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Feb 27 2023 08:35am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Feb 27 2023 01:32pm)
This narrative crap is crawling since the begining of this thread along with the OP softening everything in order to validate it.


softening everything in order to validate it. what does this mean and can you give an example ?
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Feb 27 2023 08:44am
Quote (ferdia @ 27 Feb 2023 13:13)
Here: recent wars:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvItQ3l1Eew


pfffffffffffffffff

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Quote (Djunior @ Feb 27 2023 02:05pm)
I condemn the war but saying Russia is the only side to blame is false, and you know it.


Putin is to blame and by proxy Russians are to blame. To say there are not other factors involved would also be false.
Saying that Russia is not to blame, as you have advocated; Is utterly false.

This notion that Russia has a divine right to control Ukraine, whether through coercive or forceful means, is totally invalid; The phrase spheres of influence is a synonym for imperialism. There is a rules based system about defined international borders that has existed since WW2 and Putin is seeking to break it.

If you support appeasing what Putin is doing now, then by default you support returning to a pre WW2 scenario of imperial landgrabs.

Quote (Meanwhile @ Feb 27 2023 01:32pm)
This narrative crap is crawling since the begining of this thread along with the OP softening everything in order to validate it.


I agree there is a facilitation and normalization of some very fallacious narratives in this thread.

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Feb 27 2023 03:14pm)
He is shit posting as usual.


Dear diary

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Feb 27 2023 09:23am
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Quote (ferdia @ 27 Feb 2023 22:35)
softening everything in order to validate it. what does this mean and can you give an example ?


He is shit posting as usual.
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Feb 27 2023 04:12pm)
Putin is to blame and by proxy Russians are to blame. To say there are not other factors involved would also be false.
Saying that Russia is not to blame, as you have advocated; Is utterly false.

This notion that Russia has a divine right to control Ukraine, whether through coercive or forceful means, is totally invalid; The phrase spheres of influence is a synonym for imperialism. There is a rules based system about defined international borders that has existed since WW2 and Putin is seeking to break it.

If you support appeasing what Putin is doing now, then by default you support returning to a pre WW2 scenario of imperial landgrabs.


If a Warsaw Pact like military alliance would be encroaching on NATO and threatening to take over an important NATO naval base then the combined Western world would go nuts. Facts.

You're completely dishonest. NATO should keep the fuck out of Ukraine, they've got no business there other than drooling over Crimea and provoking Russia.

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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Feb 26 2023 08:44pm)
The Chinese got lucky for the past 25 years. As a matter of fact as long as this conflict continues, it is consider luck as well. When this conflict stops, the Chinese will have another 5 to 8 years or so to prepare.

And the Taiwanese and US needs another 5 to 8 years too before the next major conflict in the East. I can assure you that the US is hell bent to make it happen.


Better keep the war going at east, or straight up beat them in Ukraine. Better use russian soldiers to destroy and kill Nato.


If i was China, I would start supplying Russia massively, and quite soon. The wait and see game, will not work out, start hitting back while US got its hands tied.

I´ve changed my view, until recently I thought waiting it out was better. But the odds/stakes of the game in UKr has gone 10x in the last months.

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Quote (Djunior @ 27 Feb 2023 17:02)
If a Warsaw Pact like military alliance would be encroaching on NATO and threatening to take over an important NATO naval base then the combined Western world would go nuts. Facts.

You're completely dishonest. NATO should keep the fuck out of Ukraine, they've got no business there other than drooling over Crimea and provoking Russia.


you still haven't learned that it wasn't NATO asking ukraine to join, but ukraine seeking protection by NATO, huh? just like so many former eastern bloc nations before it, ukraine wanted to align with the west, realising that freedom and prosperity are better than economic destitution and authoritarianism.

no one threatens russia. NATO has no interest in invading russia. that's just a lie. NATO is a defensive alliance. russia is the only party repeatedly attacking its neighbours, trying to annex their territory. you just can't stop spreading easily refutable kremlin propaganda, huh? what a bot...
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Quote (ownyaah @ 28 Feb 2023 01:14)
Better keep the war going at east, or straight up beat them in Ukraine. Better use russian soldiers to destroy and kill Nato.


If i was China, I would start supplying Russia massively, and quite soon. The wait and see game, will not work out, start hitting back while US got its hands tied.

I´ve changed my view, until recently I thought waiting it out was better. But the odds/stakes of the game in UKr has gone 10x in the last months.


In my honest opinion China cannot win in a direct war with the United States, but the US will really suffer after their victory.
Taiwan is going to be very difficult, unless the US send tons of weapon now and stock it up for the next five years and send in personnel to train the Taiwanese military and build them up for the next 5 to 8 years , Taiwan is basically a sitting duck.

The Ukrainians are a 100 times tougher as compared to the Taiwanese who have gotten weak for the past 20 years. They even watered down their conscription to a 4 month service. They only recently increase it back to 1 year a couple of weeks back.
Whereas, we Singaporeans still have to serve 2 years. I did military for 2.5 years.

The influx of Japanese anime and " cutie " culture have weaken the Taiwanese alot. The only tough and fierce Taiwanese are the triads, which is basically 60 to 70% Pro China government.
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Feb 27 2023 12:05pm
Quote (fender @ Feb 27 2023 06:34pm)
you still haven't learned that it wasn't NATO asking ukraine to join, but ukraine seeking protection by NATO, huh? just like so many former eastern bloc nations before it, ukraine wanted to align with the west, realising that freedom and prosperity are better than economic destitution and authoritarianism.

no one threatens russia. NATO has no interest in invading russia. that's just a lie. NATO is a defensive alliance. russia is the only party repeatedly attacking its neighbours, trying to annex their territory. you just can't stop spreading easily refutable kremlin propaganda, huh? what a bot...


Keep fucking around, you mindless drone
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Feb 27 2023 12:10pm
Quote (Djunior @ 27 Feb 2023 19:05)
Keep fucking around, you mindless drone


keep humiliating yourself by spewing easily refutable kremlin propaganda, you bot.
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