Over 180,000 Russian soldiers were sent to their unnecessary deaths by Putin. I do hope that in what remains of this year, that Russians will find the will to stand up to the tyrant who is the leader of their government. Look, I am no fan of Biden and by no means a fan of the non-Republican Trump, yet, our species as a whole desparately needs a Putin-free Russia. Yes, I am a wishful thinker.

it is simply amazing that some years ago if voting for trump or biden, the obvious, sane thing, would be to vote for biden. for world peace today its clearly trump i would vote for. but trump would really wreck some of the US institutions.

i would pick bernie sanders all day long.



be careful what you wish for for it may come to pass. all of the likely Putin replacements are worse.

This post was edited by ferdia on Feb 23 2023 07:00am

China is posturing as a peacemaker for PR purposes, in reality China does not have that capability with regard to Ukraine.

Also China is indirectly benefitting from the conflict.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Feb 23 2023 07:37am

yes they are selling their gas to europe. shit, i mean they are selling their weapons to europe, waits thats not right, crap i better not try a third time!
just leave it at "China is posturing as a peacemaker for PR purposes, in reality China does not have that capability with regard to Ukraine." and you are on solid ground.

This post was edited by ferdia on Feb 23 2023 07:40am

China is indirectly benefitting from this conflict. Period.

better!

The US is directly benefiting from this conflict
China is indirectly benefiting from this conflict
The EU is not benefiting from this conflict
Russia is not benefiting from this conflict
The world at large is not benefiting from this conflict

although, TLDR, no one is really benefiting from his conflict.

This post was edited by ferdia on Feb 23 2023 07:55am

Its exactly the same as what I already said? I'm doubling down.

The caveat to that statement would be that China was the largest investor in Ukraine before the conflict Also "The West" and that includes Japan, South Korea, Australia will work more closely together because of the war in Ukraine, which could be seen as a challenge.

Nobody in war is a winner, but if anyone is losing less from this. Its China. Its adversary in the US is occupied and diverting resources away from the Asia theatre. Also Russia is completely reliant on China as a market for its oil and gas, giving China massive leverage.

Also saying that the US is benefitting, does not equate to China is not benefitting.

Its probably not balanced either because aside from the Military industrial complex vector, or strategic vector the US taxpayer does not need to be racking up more debt buying/sending arms to Ukraine.
Although geopolitically sending a fraction of its defense budget to Ukraine, weakening and opposing Russia strategic aims whilst risking none of its own vital material/troops is most definitely a strategic win.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Feb 23 2023 08:00am

By your own words China was the largest investor in Ukraine. This is true. How then have you jumped to the conclusion that China is indirectly benefiting from this? This aspect is a loss and should not be directly linked to the other part of your statement. By your own words the US (China's adversary in Asia) is diverting resources away from Asia. What does this actually mean because frankly I dont know. Also I do not see Russia being completely reliant on China. Russia borders China. if west wont play ball, maybe east will. Us shoving Russia to look East is a geopolitical blunder on the part of the US.

The best way to view the China position is to say that as they are not aligned or involved, they are benefiting in the shape of time. Time to improve all their infrastructure/trade/technology/and yes, military etc. That to my mind is how China is most benefiting.

This post was edited by ferdia on Feb 23 2023 08:08am

That's the best thing to say, because the "benefits" are temporary, the time of the conflict. A much bigger deal depends of how it ends.
Btw China sold weapons to EU or to pro-russian governements ?