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Feb 22 2023 12:18pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Feb 22 2023 06:16pm)
If you'd said something like "it is my belief that Johnson advised Zelensky not to negotiate" I would have no issue.
Saying "on record" is something completely different, and in my opinion misleading.

Its the same as this assertion that the US sabotaged NS2. People are accepting things as fact, that they have no irrefutable evidence for.


but he indicated that in the video! what video did you watch ?

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but he indicated that in the video! what video did you watch ?


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but he indicated that in the video! what video did you watch ?


So is he "on record" as having done something or is he indicating something, in your opinion?

You know very well this is the crux of the point I'm making.

What he says in the video is quote
"That argument crumbles. You can't negotiate with Putin because he is so patently untrustworthy"

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So is he "on record" or is he indicating something, in your opinion?

You know very well this is the crux of the point I'm making.


a video where the former prime ministor of boris lays out his position whereby he convinced his peers not to negotiate with Putin. how is that not "on the record" ?

thats not an isolated video btw.

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a video where the former prime ministor of boris lays out his position whereby he convinced his peers not to negotiate with Putin. how is that not "on the record" ?

thats not an isolated video btw.


You said specifically ""England is on record as advising them not to negotiate""
In that video Bojo makes the statement "You can't negotiate with Putin because he is so patently untrustworthy"

Admittedly I'm arguing over the semantics of using "on record" I still think that it is prudent to have a record of something, if your saying that there is one.


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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Feb 22 2023 06:47pm)
You said specifically ""England is on record as advising them not to negotiate""
In that video Bojo makes the statement "You can't negotiate with Putin because he is so patently untrustworthy"

Admittedly I'm arguing over the semantics of using "on record" I still think that it is prudent to have a record of something, if your saying that there is one.


HE WAS THE LEADER OF ENGLAND, HE STEERED THE NARRATIVE OF NOT NEGOTIATING WITH PUTIN, HOW IS THAT NOT ON THE RECORD LOL.

i am moving on from this. if you dont think that counts as being "on the record" then it is what it is.

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is that from today?

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HE WAS THE LEADER OF ENGLAND, HE STEERED THE NARRATIVE OF NOT NEGOTIATING WITH PUTIN, HOW IS THAT NOT ON THE RECORD LOL.


Does Johnson say "on record" "I advised them(Ukraine) not to negotiate" ?

Does he say that?
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Does Johnson say "on record" "I advised them(Ukraine) not to negotiate" ?

Does he say that?


your being very pedantic now. the video is there for people to make up their own mind.
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your being very pedantic now. the video is there for people to make up their own mind.


So, no then.
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