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several more shootings, one confirmed fatality, a few more GSW victims, also shots fired at officers with none hit
in the past 48 hours the twin cities have seen about 30 shooting victims with 2 dead

I'd have to run some numbers, but I think this is an even higher concentration of violence than your normal chicago weekend roundup when you look per capita, chicago has 4x the population
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Quote (Goomshill @ 22 Jun 2020 13:13)
several more shootings, one confirmed fatality, a few more GSW victims, also shots fired at officers with none hit
in the past 48 hours the twin cities have seen about 30 shooting victims with 2 dead

I'd have to run some numbers, but I think this is an even higher concentration of violence than your normal chicago weekend roundup when you look per capita, chicago has 4x the population


Just insanity. And the worst thing about it: half the country doesnt want to hear about it and thinks anyone who speaks out against such an untenable situation is just a racist.
I really wonder if this will have an impact on Minnesota in the November election. The situation inside the Twin Cities might not be covered as extensively on national news as it should be, but at least the people living in the twin cities or the surrounding suburbs must be aware of it.

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Just insanity. And the worst thing about it: half the country doesnt want to hear about it and thinks anyone who speaks out against such an untenable situation is just a racist.
I really wonder if this will have an impact on Minnesota in the November election. The situation inside the Twin Cities might not be covered as extensively on national news as it should be, but at least the people living in the twin cities or the surrounding suburbs must be aware of it.


Not a lot of people are talking about CHAZ except us and people in the news.

Go to work and ask people what they think about CHAZ and they will say 'who?'. Nobody knows about it here except hyperventilating news casters who have to pretend there is 24 hours worth of news in a 24 hour period.

Nothing is really happening there, and it isn't part of the wider, national conversation.

Your statement that anybody who speaks out about it will be called racist is very off and i can tell you haven't really been to the US. Anybody who speaks out will find a reaction like "whats a chaz?" And then you will probably get a "that's not cool".

Americans are really passive. If covid showed Europeans anything is that americans aren't used to problems they can't shop their way out of, boomers have no survival instinct, and that we aren't an informed people. The average american is going to know more about the masked singer than geopolitics. But we are good at getting up and taking care of ourselves without bothering our neighbors and that is the ideal here.

Nobody knows about CHAZ outside here, chans, reddit, and news stations.

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Not a lot of people are talking about CHAZ except us and people in the news.

Go to work and ask people what they think about CHAZ and they will say 'who?'. Nobody knows about it here except hyperventilating news casters who have to pretend there is 24 hours worth of news in a 24 hour period.

Nothing is really happening there, and it isn't part of the wider, national conversation.

Your statement that anybody who speaks out about it will be called racist is very off and i can tell you haven't really been to the US. Anybody who speaks out will find a reaction like "whats a chaz?" And then you will probably get a "that's not cool".

Americans are really passive. If covid showed Europeans anything is that americans aren't used to problems they can't shop their way out of, boomers have no survival instinct, and that we aren't an informed people. The average american is going to know more about the masked singer than geopolitics. But we are good at getting up and taking care of ourselves without bothering our neighbors and that is the ideal here.

Nobody knows about CHAZ outside here, chans, reddit, and news stations.


Uh, do you realize that this is the Minneapolis thread, not the CHAZ thread?
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Uh, do you realize that this is the Minneapolis thread, not the CHAZ thread?


Hes emulating his savior, Joe Biden.

Has no idea where he is or whats going on. (but still wants to run the country)

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Media controls the narrative and has been actively inflaming these tensions.

Publicize and entice hate and division with the death of a black guy at the hands of police but ignore the ramifications of what it looks like after kindling that fire.

But that's the world we live in. The way they sell and frame these stories results in probably a doubling of black men dying from black on black crime as police pull back and give these communities what they want.

30 shot and 2 dead in two days, and this is just June, what will July and August look like? Is this the progress progressives promise with defending the police?
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 22 Jun 2020 08:04)
Uh, do you realize that this is the Minneapolis thread, not the CHAZ thread?


Quote (cambovenzi @ 22 Jun 2020 08:24)
Hes emulating his savior, Joe Biden.

Has no idea where he is or whats going on. (but still wants to run the country)

lmfao
well said my friends
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Jun 22 2020 09:58am
My question about shootings in Minneapolis are are they higher than usual for this time last year
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Quote (duffman316 @ Jun 22 2020 10:58am)
My question about shootings in Minneapolis are are they higher than usual for this time last year


That last one was the 2nd largest mass shooting the state's history in terms of # of victims (Red Lake was worse), and we've had 30+ people shot and 2 murders in the span of 48 hours, and a pretty regular murder every few days before that
Minneapolis usually has about 40 murders per year. UCR and NCVS don't really single out "shootings" so its hard to get statistics on that, but I can tell you the number of shootings is definitely elevated, I think much much higher than normal.
Its not normal for Minnneapolis to get strings of multiple shootings (with victims) per night in different locations or criminals tearing around town committing 12 carjackings / armed robberies in the span of 2 hours
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https://www.twincities.com/2020/06/22/retired-police-chief-intervenes-when-couple-is-randomly-attacked-in-st-paul-hes-also-assaulted/

Conspicuous absence of race of victims/attackers/good samaritans in this story

20 year old man and 22 year old woman drive to St Paul to pick up a free couch on the sidewalk
They are 'randomly and brutally' attacked by a group of ~8 people who demanded their phones and money.
A retired 60 year police officer with over 30 years on the job and current director of public safety for New Brighton intervenes and tries to aid them
The 'youths' hit the 60 year old man over the head with a piece of wooden furniture from behind
Police made four arrests, 15 and 17 year old males and 14 and 16 year old females
No identities or descriptions given since they are minors, of course.

The 60 year old retired cop wrote about the attack:

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Calls to reform policing are timely. But consideration has to be given that police are needed, they are at times the only thing that stands in the way of a chaos, violence and destruction.
Those kids didn’t grow up thinking that they wanted to hit an old cop ‘upside’ the head with a hunk of wood. It went wrong somewhere, and yes, we need more resources to deal with the front-end issues that help bring about crime in our cities. … While our leaders try to figure this out, a cut in policing will only serve to make this problem more difficult to solve. Our communities will continue to dissolve into some forms of lawlessness without a concerted effort of partnerships between the community and the police. I have witnessed it, I have experienced it, I visited Regions Hospital because of it.


Anyways:



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