Quote (Black XistenZ @ 21 Feb 2023 22:32)
Is China's real estate bubble about to burst?
Yes and no. Let me give you a background.
My Team recently met with a top Govt guy in the South Area to discuss work.
The government's income for the next up and coming 3 to 5 years is going to come from Tax to fuel their overseas foreign policy etc etc .
China moved from some poor rural backwards country to what it is now too fast too quick. The era of Jiang have ushered in corruption in an unprecedented manner. Xi has been trying to correct that for the past couple of years.
He has some success. But I can assure anyone that a country with no corruption is impossible , even in a squeaky clean country like mine ( Singapore ). But Singapore is easier to control because of a small land size and population.
So what is happening in regards to ( property ). The middle and middle lower class cannot afford housing unless they move 20 to 30 km away from main cities like Shenzhen, Xiamen, Beijing , Shanghai etc etc and into second or third tier cities.
The government is taxing
Chinese National businessman , middle upper and upper class and HNWI in an unprecedented manner. They are back tracking your tax and business and trade up to 30 years back.
So for example if they find a transaction funny and if you can't explain it. They will first fine you and tax you. So that is a double whammy.
I moved about xxx million Euro of worth of RMB out for the past few months for clients because they are trying to avoid such situations which is extremely unfair, they feel they shouldn't pay in such a brazen manner for the incompetence of the previous ruling leaders.
Majority of the funds went to Singapore and Canada mostly. To a lesser extent New Zealand , Australia and Portugal. But there are also similar amount of funds moving into China for investment.
However when the government and " trade war " stabilize, such funds will move back in because China is still considered a good investment environment if such restrictions and laws are being laxed in future.
This is worrying for everyone. And the Chinese government due to her current trajectory of foreign policy have written off a lot of debt from Africa or lowered their interest rates or extent their loans.
All these are funded by the Chinese citizens via the current tax restructuring.
Long story short people are pissed.
This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Feb 21 2023 08:59am