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Are you aware that I type very slowly and edit a LOT? :)

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The Left has nothing to do with the June 9th, 2016 Trump Tower meeting with the exception of Hillary Clinton/DNC being the subject of potential dirt offered by the Russians before and during the meeting.

So your edited response has little do with my question: Are you aware of the pretext and content of the meeting?

Regardless of whether Don Jr. and the Trump team got the dirt that they wanted on Clinton or not, the two items the meeting revolved around were the Magnitsky Act and potential dirt on Clinton.

Russia wants the Magnitsky Act overturned for obvious reasons. The Magnitsky Act targeted Russian oligarchs, froze assets they held in U.S. banks, and banned their future use of U.S. banking systems.

It's not clear whether any deal was made between the parties or not (so far it looks like a deal didn't occur), but regardless, the meeting was conspiratory in nature. Even if the meeting was a complete waste of time, as Don Jr. puts it, taking the meeting under that pretext and/or not reporting the meeting to federal authorities afterward was potentially criminal.

Keep in mind that the Al Gore campaign overturned some dirty info they got on George W. Bush back in 2000, so there is some precedent for how these things should be properly handled in a presidential campaign.

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It matters because the demotards and the media these days, can make anything LOOK like anything.
It seems that the left pretty much controls the media, which may be why Trump is a twitter maniac.

I miss the days when the media have to have proof of what they reported on.
Not the type of "proof" they use these days... 837 sources who couldn't be named, said so and so. But proof like back in the day. One anonymous source and every other source named in the articles.

These days it's pretty much the opposite. Which means, since their names areb't included, these sources can say or even make up w/e they want without worries of repercussions.

Quote (Ghot @ Aug 5 2018 05:54pm)

The bolded part IS the crux of this issue.
The Magnitsky Act is another of Obama's um... masterpieces, which was passed into law right after the Uranium One deal. On top of that, we didn't NEED a Magnitsky Act to sanction Russia, freeze assets...etc.
Hell, we were doing that back in the Cold War.

I've been following everything concerning this topic since it started. My first post was #354

The left WANTS everyone to focus on the Magnitsky Act. Mainly because that doesn't show any of the illegal activities that the left was involved in, with respect to Russia.




/e Done editing. :)

Quote (Ghot @ 5 Aug 2018 16:54)

The bolded part IS the crux of this issue.
The Magnitsky Act is another of Obama's um... masterpieces, which was passed into law right after the Uranium One deal. On top of that, we didn't NEED a Magnitsky Act to sanction Russia, freeze assets...etc.
Hell, we were doing that back in the Cold War.

I've been following everything concerning this topic since it started. My first post was #354

The left WANTS everyone to focus on the Magnitsky Act. Mainly because that doesn't show any illegal activities that the left was involved in, with respect to Russia.

Quote (Ghot @ Aug 5 2018 06:14pm)

Which Act of Congress do we rely on when sanctioning North Korea, or Iran, or China?

We don't (never did) NEED the Magnitsky Act. It's a fucking smoke screen.
This whole fucking "Trump colluded with Russia" and/or the "election hacking" bullshit is just MORE smoke screen.

This is NOT a complicated issue. All this crap that the Mueller investigation is looking into is just to hide...

This stuff...

[URL=http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355749-fbi-uncovered-russian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration]http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355749-fbi-uncovered-russian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration[/URL]

It's not rocket science.
The left got caught and is trying to cover their tracks.
ANY meeting of any of Trump's campaign, with the Russians is/was concerning the dirt surrounding the Uranium One deal. And possibly even more left/Russia collusion that we don't even know about yet.

As for the fake media crap. I've been alive for almost 62 years now. I have NEVER seen all the media biggies agree so completely on anything. Ever!
It's usually close to a 50/50 or 60/40 spread. yet now we them all in the same hot tub except for Fox atm. It's unheard of.

Just pretend for a second, that you aren't emotionally involved in this issue.

Hillary got caught sending classified docs over unsecured servers. Claimed she didn't know they were classified, and then deleted all of them when asked to show them.
And everyone just takes that in stride. FBI supposedly investigated, said there was nothing to it, and it was dropped.
And no one even stops to think... I wonder what that was all about, let alone bring charges.


Yet because the media/left said so, we will start a 1.5 year and counting investigation into something that really isn't illegal, and that there is no proof of. LMAO

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Browder described Veselnitskaya in an NPR interview as a longtime foil to him in her efforts to repeal the Magnitsky Act. She represents a member of the Katsyv family, whose company is under investigation by the Justice Department in connection with the laundering of real estate money in New York. Denis Katsyv has lobbied to overturn Magnitsky and to end Russia's American adoption ban.

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Not really. Because all politicians in a race, will try to dig up bad juju on their opponents. That's normal.
The problem in the 2016 race was that the bad juju didn't concern things done just IN the US.

Both sides know this. Trump had to risk getting the information concerning Hillary, outside the US because the atrocities Hillary committed involved Russia.
This was bad and good for the left. If Trump came up with damaging info (bad for the left), the left could always claim collusion or some such, and use the older US citizens fear of Russia to destroy Trump (good for the left).


I've said many times previously that the left has been in cahoots with Russia for about 1-2 decades. The left felt safe in this because of the fact that if caught, they could always blame the right for collusion, if the right got the damaging information that the left knew Russia possessed.
Kind of a win - win situation for the left.



Anyways, here's the latest...


Trump says his son sought information on Clinton from Russians in 2016

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia/trump-says-his-son-sought-information-on-clinton-from-russians-in-2016-idUSKBN1KQ0HO




/e The media has been unearthing news of the left's collusion with Russia since back in 2005-ish. News always quickly buried by the left, with their control of most of the normal media sources.
Not to mention the corrupted DOJ and FBI as well.
This ofc puts Mueller in a strange position. He was head of the FBI during the time the left was colluding with Russia.
He probably has to be very careful these days, so his investigation doesn't snare himself as well as the intended targets.





/ee Here is just the 1st of three articles about the left playing kissy face with Russia. Check out the names of the involved politicians...

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355749-fbi-uncovered-russian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration