I condemn acts of violence committed by anti-fascists the same way I condemn war crimes committed by individuals on the allied forces during WWII.. but if you are going to pretend for one second that the two sides are on an equal moral ground, then you need to be called out on your bullshit.

This post was edited by TCassa89 on Aug 16 2017 11:21pm

'b-b-but TECHNICALLY it's correct to point out that there are violent thugs on the left, so trump did nothing wrong - this is fine'...

This post was edited by fender on Aug 16 2017 11:24pm

Just to interject without seeing all the rest of the commentary, but it sure seems like you see what you want to see.

Just because he said the other side was in the wrong as well doesn't even remotely imply both sides were equally bad

This post was edited by JohnMiller92 on Aug 16 2017 11:30pm

"i am rubber, you are glue..." very convincing.
i wonder if at some point you would ask yourself the question why the majority of americans "want to see" this - including many ultra conservatives from his own party...

Not wasting anymore time tonight on hair splitting and accusations of strawmen packaged with unjustified arrogance and insults and nonsensical conspiracy theories when I accurately paraphrased what you said.

What you said is there for everyone to see. The obvious issues I took with it are also there to see.

Acknowledging and condemning the violence of the left instead of ignoring it or glorifying them is about more than being 'technically correct'.. as if thats somehow bad in the first place.


ANTIFA have on numerous occasions been guilty of violently attacking innocent people and rioting to shut down speech they dont like. Thats a primary function of their public appearances.
Comparing them with Allied WW2 soldiers in a heroic light is disgraceful and inaccurate.

How did you come to this conclusion? You appear to be denouncing Trump for not being as upset about the Charlotte violence as you would like him to be, and I am pointing out that "clear signal" to you is not "clear signal" to someone else. You appear to be seeing what you want to see.

He spent more time condemning the anti-fascists, and then said that both sides have "very fine people" before going on an extended rant about how the media is focusing more on the violence committed by the side that took part in murdering innocent civilians instead of focusing on the side that did not take part in murdering innocent civilians.

This post was edited by TCassa89 on Aug 16 2017 11:48pm

somehow I got a clear signal from Trump saying that he condemns nazis/white supremacists/etc that he condemns nazis/white supremacists/etc
I have this particular hang-up in intellectual discourse where I insist people be taken at presumption of good faith and their arguments be addressed on the merits of their logic. To impugn someone's motives is an unanswerable attack that simply degrades and shuts down debate. If someone wants to say "Trump meant the opposite of what he said, and it doesn't matter what he insists", well that's an inarguable wall of unprovable idle speculative and degenerate abandonment of argument.

I think this just further proves people watch completely differently films in their head.