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Feb 15 2023 11:49am
Quote (fender @ 16 Feb 2023 01:44)
you're not smart enough to distinguish between understanding what motivates certain actors and agreeing with those views. those are fundamentally different things. international borders exist. legitimising redrawing them with military force leads to chaos and suffering. civilised people don't do that.


I can assure you that human beings are not exactly civilized , may it be the East of the West.
Also I do not agree with the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the Ukrainians have every right to defend their borders and take back whatever they lose if they are capable whether with the help of the West or not.

Whether am I smart enough to see things via my lens and scope domestically or internationally is another issue altogether.

Similarly speaking your " moralistic views " and " personal ideology " have dampen your intelligence in regards to how you view current affairs and geopolitics .

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Feb 15 2023 11:54am
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Feb 15 2023 12:00pm
Quote (ferdia @ Feb 15 2023 05:03pm)
good luck discussing this topic with that user. i will say a prayer for you haha.


You do that for me and I'll pray for you if you ever decide to hace healthy debate or even a conversation with Meanwhile.
Both are probably on a spectrum and I ain't even trying to be offensive but understanding lol
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Feb 15 2023 12:14pm
The war in Ukraine is a war of choice for Putin, and therefore for Russians.
The war is also a war of necessity for Putin, it is not a war of necessity for Russians.
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Feb 15 2023 12:20pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Feb 15 2023 07:14pm)
The war in Ukraine is a war of choice for Putin, and therefore for Russians.
The war is also a war of necessity for Putin, it is not a war of necessity for Russians.


totaly your opinion... far from reality.
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Feb 15 2023 12:21pm
Quote (Pisior @ Feb 15 2023 06:20pm)
totaly your opinion... far from reality.


Also your opinion.
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Feb 15 2023 12:22pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Feb 15 2023 07:21pm)
Also your opinion.


my is full opposite of yours, and you know it :P
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Feb 15 2023 12:23pm
Quote (Pisior @ Feb 15 2023 06:20pm)
totaly your opinion... far from reality.


Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Feb 15 2023 06:14pm)
The war in Ukraine is a war of choice for Putin, and therefore for Russians.
The war is also a war of necessity for Putin, it is not a war of necessity for Russians.


to be honest i agree with here. if you read the two statements again anyone would tend to agree, both sentances are very well grounded in logic.

while Prox1m1ty and I disagree on some points we can find common ground. also on an aside Prox1m1ty, Nicole resigned. feels bad.

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Quote (ferdia @ 16 Feb 2023 02:23)
to be honest i agree with ^Prox1m1ty here. if you read the two statements again anyone would tend to agree, both sentances are very well grounded in logic.


I also agree to those statements to be fair.

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Feb 15 2023 12:29pm
and why Putin will do this so? zelensky can kill his people since 2014 , nobody say nothing, when russia come on, omg its a tragedy
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Feb 15 2023 12:33pm
and help from nato and many country is a necessity too? why? seriously this is real, not a fiction. war was, war is and war will be.
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