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Feb 14 2023 01:49pm
So according to this guy the Russians have years worth of artillery rounds while the West is running out...

Where are all the "Russia is running out of ammunition" PARDians?

And what did that shit propaganda accomplish?

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Feb 14 2023 01:58pm
So mainstream media is okay, but only when it supports your viewpoint. How ironic :rofl:

Excuse me sir, your prejudice is showing.
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Feb 14 2023 02:02pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Feb 14 2023 08:58pm)
So mainstream media is okay, but only when it supports your viewpoint. How ironic :rofl:

Excuse me sir, your prejudice is showing.


The irony is that MSM have been telling us time and time again that Russia is running out of ammunition...

And you're the guy that's been parroting MSM bullshit "Russia is out of ammo" :lol:

e: If you'd be honest you'd say well that MSM propaganda is just fucked up, why do they give us false information. But that's if you're honest and that's clearly not the case...

This post was edited by Djunior on Feb 14 2023 02:06pm
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Feb 14 2023 02:04pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Feb 14 2023 07:18pm)
I use the phrase "path of least resistance" in a ideological way, less than a literal way.
Not resistance as in dissent or revolt.

I would say Russians have nothing to gain from dissent. Certainly not before the war in Ukraine.
But now there are clear losses and sacrifice for regular citizens because of the war.
Sanctions, losing relatives, losing your own life.

It's kind of nationalism gone mad.

As flawed as the west is, I still value liberty. Something that detractors of the west, FROM the west often take for granted in my opinion.


i think we are talking about different things here. i am talking about cultural history and you are talking about recent events.
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Feb 14 2023 02:07pm
Quote (Djunior @ Feb 14 2023 08:02pm)
The irony is that MSM have been telling us time and time again that Russia is running out of ammunition...

And you're the guy that's been parroting MSM bullshit "Russia is out of ammo" :lol:

e: If you'd be honest you'd say well that MSM propaganda is just fucked up, why do they give us false information. But that's if you're honest and that's clearly not the case...


I've said Russia has depleted its precision missiles and will struggle with supply chains.
I said unequivocally that Russia was not out of missiles.
Also missiles =/= artillery.

I think you hit your head lately comrade.
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Feb 14 2023 02:09pm
Quote (Djunior @ Feb 14 2023 08:02pm)
The irony is that MSM have been telling us time and time again that Russia is running out of ammunition...

And you're the guy that's been parroting MSM bullshit "Russia is out of ammo" :lol:

e: If you'd be honest you'd say well that MSM propaganda is just fucked up, why do they give us false information. But that's if you're honest and that's clearly not the case...


MSM give us false information says the guy that just used MSM as a source to backup his argument. :bonk:

Update required comrade, contact Dmitri asap.

Quote (ferdia @ Feb 14 2023 08:04pm)
i think we are talking about different things here. i am talking about cultural history and you are talking about recent events.


Historically there has been alot of dissent though?
Multiple revolutions.
Think there is a definite cultural subservient aspect to Russian culture (serfdom).

Quote (Meanwhile @ Feb 14 2023 08:09pm)
Not worse than confounding shells and missiles.


Yeah, smh honestly its embarrassing.


This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Feb 14 2023 02:12pm
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Feb 14 2023 02:09pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 14 Feb 2023 20:58)
So mainstream media is okay, but only when it supports your viewpoint. How ironic :rofl:

Excuse me sir, your prejudice is showing.


Not worse than confounding shells and missiles.

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NATO allies weigh more arms for Ukraine as Russian artillery batters Bakhmut

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/new-russian-offensive-underway-ukraine-says-nato-2023-02-13/
full:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-offensive-underway-ukraine-says-223600920.html

I guess it will never be a problem to give more weapons or amunitions (any type) if Ukraine is needing it.

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US warns Ukraine that war is reaching pivotal point

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/02/14/7389228/

Seems US decides in the same way it tells where to strike




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Feb 14 2023 02:10pm
Quote (Djunior @ Feb 14 2023 08:02pm)
The irony is that MSM have been telling us time and time again that Russia is running out of ammunition...

And you're the guy that's been parroting MSM bullshit "Russia is out of ammo" :lol:

e: If you'd be honest you'd say well that MSM propaganda is just fucked up, why do they give us false information. But that's if you're honest and that's clearly not the case...


you are flogging a dead horse Djunior, let it go. whether Russia is running out of ammunition is irrelevant, they can always just make or buy more, it does not need to be repeatedly stated that the MSM (western) narrative re: russia stockpiles is exagerated. Just take every news snippet with a pinch of salt.

tbh im more interested in whether and when jets (and long range weapons) are supplied to ukraine (which btw i am completely against, on account that the planet's one wish for 2023 is to not die in WW3).

This post was edited by ferdia on Feb 14 2023 02:12pm
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Feb 14 2023 02:12pm
Quote (ferdia @ Feb 14 2023 08:10pm)
you are flogging a dead horse Djunior, let it go. whether Russia is running out of ammunition is irrelevant, they can always just make or buy more, it does not need to be repeatedly stated that the MSM (western) narrative re: russia stockpiles is exagerated. Just take every news snippet with a pinch of salt.

tbh im more interested in whether and when jets (and long range weapons) are supplied to ukraine (which btw i am completely against, on account that my one wish for 2023 is not dying).


What escalation do you think Russia would turn to if the west supplied jets?

Specifically
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Feb 14 2023 02:15pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Feb 14 2023 08:12pm)
What escalation do you think Russia would turn to if the west supplied jets?

Specifically


how extensively do you want me to reply ?

briefly, the russian viewpoint is the west can give ukraine anything, provided it does not jeopardise russian lands.
i.e. "give ukraine w/e you want provided they dont actually win with it".

if with jets and long range missles ukraine threatens what russia deems russian, i would envisage alot of sabre ratteling culminating in the bombing of kiev (i mean similar to dresden).

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