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Feb 3 2023 02:57pm
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/tennessee-makes-push-to-replace-columbus-day-holiday-favor-super-bowl-monday

It’s things like this is why my brothers in St. Petersburg are fucking y’all up
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Feb 3 2023 02:58pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Feb 3 2023 04:50pm)
I have no idea because I don't think about you at all.


What is it you do think about? Because it certainly isn't geopolitics either lmao

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Feb 3 2023 03:17pm
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Gonna go on a tangent.

What's up with the Chinese balloon being such a huge story? Like I'm trying to understand how is this thing any different than a satellite or the UAV's we have across dozens of nations that we never asked for permission. Is it because of the altitude it's flying at?



https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/2/3/blinken-postpones-visit-to-china-because-of-balloon-incident


i thought the same thing. its not a story, its just being made into a story, if you get me.
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Feb 3 2023 03:22pm
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i thought the same thing. its not a story, its just being made into a story, if you get me.


Cuz China bad. Just imagine the REEE value if it were a Russian balloon
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Feb 3 2023 03:23pm
i mean its the headline on the irish news. mental.
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Feb 3 2023 03:40pm
Quote (Djunior @ 3 Feb 2023 22:22)
Cuz China bad. Just imagine the REEE value if it were a Russian balloon


Quote (ferdia @ 3 Feb 2023 22:23)
i mean its the headline on the irish news. mental.


So without knowing the facts you think it's just "fake news to create a diversion or american propanda" and that it doesn't deserve headlines ?
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So without knowing the facts you think it's just "fake news to create a diversion or american propanda" and that it doesn't deserve headlines ?


where did i say i dont know the facts? the facts are that balloons are all over the planet at any given moment and everyone spies on everyone. this is not news. it is being made into news. if the US wants to make this news to scare their people, fine, but i am in ireland, why should this be news for ireland ?? the olympic's is bigger news and more relevant for my country yet that is not on the front page. there is a war in europe. thats not even on the front page. but this satellite ? wow front page news. seriously.

the balloon is apparently 3 times the size of a bus (big). other then that there is nothing here that surprises me.

The US has 123 spy satellites in the sky above us. i dont see this making the news.

and in response:

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US Secretary of State Antony Blinken has told a top Chinese official that it was "irresponsible" of Beijing to send a surveillance balloon over US soil as he explained why he postponed a visit to China. In a phone call with Wang Yi, Mr Blinken noted China's "statement of regret but conveyed that this is an irresponsible act and a clear violation of US sovereignty and international law that undermined the purpose of the trip," a State Department statement said.

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look i get it, China is becoming a world superpower and they are testing what they can and cant do, while the US is also testing what it can and cant do to China. there are ample resources for you to read whats going on right now. you can expect more stories like this all of which, like the ukraine war, is aimed at creating a narrative to enable some people to do what they will do.

This post was edited by ferdia on Feb 3 2023 03:53pm
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So without knowing the facts you think it's just "fake news to create a diversion or american propanda" and that it doesn't deserve headlines ?


We're not calling it American propaganda.

We're just pointing out that this story is blown out of proportion and that it's well known that the US is spying on literally everyone, remember when the NSA hacked Merkel's phone?
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where did i say i dont know the facts? the facts are that balloons are all over the planet at any given moment and everyone spies on everyone. this is not news. it is being made into news. if the US wants to make this news to scare their people, fine, but i am in ireland, why should this be news for ireland ?? the olympic's is bigger news and more relevant for my country yet that is not on the front page. there is a war in europe. thats not even on the front page. but this satellite ? wow front page news. seriously.

the balloon is apparently 3 times the size of a bus (big). other then that there is nothing here that surprises me.

The US has 123 spy satellites in the sky above us. i dont see this making the news.

and in response:

US Secretary of State Antony Blinken has told a top Chinese official that it was "irresponsible" of Beijing to send a surveillance balloon over US soil as he explained why he postponed a visit to China. In a phone call with Wang Yi, Mr Blinken noted China's "statement of regret but conveyed that this is an irresponsible act and a clear violation of US sovereignty and international law that undermined the purpose of the trip," a State Department statement said.


Quote (Djunior @ 3 Feb 2023 22:52)
We're not calling it American propaganda.

We're just pointing out that this story is blown out of proportion and that it's well known that the US is spying on literally everyone, remember when the NSA hacked Merkel's phone?


So it's whataboutism ? Let's see what happend next when they shut it down. Maybe it's unjustified, maybe it is. Who know atm.
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Feb 3 2023 04:03pm
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So it's whataboutism ? Let's see what happend next when they shut it down. Maybe it's unjustified, maybe it is. Who know atm.


https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=98612622&f=119&o=150#p637678467

there, you can talk about it there. posting a topic about russia does not make me prorussian. neither does posting a topic about china make me pro-chinese.

the US is moving on Russia
China is flexing and the US does not like this
god knows where India will go

these are all important topic's and will remain relevant for the forseeable future. discussing these topic's therefore is worthwhile. if you dont want to discuss it, you dont have to. dont assume to know my position just because i am not taking a side.

This post was edited by ferdia on Feb 3 2023 04:23pm
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