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Feb 3 2023 11:28am
Quote (ferdia @ 4 Feb 2023 01:18)
Russia does not appear to want all of Ukraine, just half of it.
Where do you see me not understanding something, and I will give you my view
Your not wrong re: those countries being messed up.


All you need to do is to ask a simple question.

Is Taiwan a country and you will probably know their ideologue.
To further the question ask another follow up question.

If both the Taiwan and China's military is compatible.
What are their thoughts if China reunify Taiwan
and
What are their thoughts if Taiwan reunify China.

I think sometimes people do not understand a very simple concept which is quite perplexing.
They view China, Russia , Iran etc etc as trash..

But on the other end of the spectrum there are also huge amount of people who thinks that the British, Americans, French , Australians etc etc are trash.

But perhaps in our current geo political climate , those that think that the Brits, Americans , French etc etc are trash and are not considered human beings.
And this is quite evident when we are using an English based medium.
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Feb 3 2023 11:30am
Quote (ferdia @ 3 Feb 2023 18:27)
this is your opinion, this is also a common widespread opinion. i just dont share it but i am not giving out or anything, i just dont share the same view. you may view this war as Ukraine next, eastern europe next, i dont view it that way.


Putin has said the biggest catastrophe of the 20th Century was the breakup of the USSR. The biggest and richest Republic besides Russia in USSR was Ukraine.

It is your choice to deny the evidences stacking since almost two decades now.

Quote (ferdia @ 3 Feb 2023 18:27)
this is your opinion, this is also a common widespread opinion. i am not ignoring this viewpoint, i just dont share it. The idea of Ukraine first, eastern europe next - where is this logic coming from ?
remember putin has been in power for decades now. do you not question, why now and not before 2014 ?


Europe tried the "peace/treaties" for too long. Especially because of easy natural ressources. Gave a decade or two.
At the end of the day Germany and France finally realized it was simply not possible and the only option left is to weakening this horrible regime.


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Quote (Meanwhile @ Feb 3 2023 06:30pm)
Putin has said the biggest catastrophe of the 20th Century was the breakup of the USSR. The biggest and richest Republic besides Russia in USSR was Ukraine.

It is your choice to deny the evidences stacking since almost two decades now.


you mean the ukraine that cant pay gas bills for 30 years?
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Feb 3 2023 11:33am
Quote (ferdia @ Feb 3 2023 05:08pm)
the finer points:

it is my view that the US was directly involved in shaping or manouvering the Ukraine government.
where the end result is the taking of a chess piece (which is what ukraine is) then yes it comparable. In laymans terms, russia saw the piece as belonging to it, and the US captured it.
this is viewing the situation from a large step back. how is this position mental? surely you understand the concept of sphere of influence ?

Crimea was in Russia's sphere of influence and not yesterday, today or tomorrow will Russia countenance that position changing. To use your words, Russia will not appease the west in giving up Crimea. (i accept your position is "but crimea was never russia's in the first place" - i can accept your position but i dont have to agree with it).


Ukraine is a chesspiece?
Interesting way to describe 40 million people.

Yeah I would normally say I disagree but I think its apt to point out your argument is terrible.

It's incredible to see the erosion of awareness and intelligence in Europeans. Europe is literally fucked if Ukraine is a chesspiece and our quality of life is terrible because buildings are made from red bricks.
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Feb 3 2023 11:34am
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Ukraine is a chesspiece?
Interesting way to describe 40 million people.

Yeah I would normally say I disagree but I think its apt to point out your argument is terrible.

It's incredible to see the erosion of awareness and intelligence in Europeans. Europe is literally fucked if Ukraine is a chesspiece and our quality of life is terrible because buildings are made from red bricks.


ukraine is in russia's sphere of influence, im sorry if you did not like the analogy, or that this concept does not work for you.
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Feb 3 2023 05:28pm)
All you need to do is to ask a simple question.

Is Taiwan a country and you will probably know their ideologue.
To further the question ask another follow up question.

If both the Taiwan and China's military is compatible.
What are their thoughts if China reunify Taiwan
and
What are their thoughts if Taiwan reunify China.

I think sometimes people do not understand a very simple concept which is quite perplexing.
They view China, Russia , Iran etc etc as trash..

But on the other end of the spectrum there are also huge amount of people who thinks that the British, Americans, French , Australians etc etc are trash.

But perhaps in our current geo political climate , those that think that the Brits, Americans , French etc etc are trash and are not considered human beings.
And this is quite evident when we are using an English based medium.


a good post.
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Feb 3 2023 11:36am
Quote (ferdia @ 3 Feb 2023 18:34)
ukraine is in russia's sphere of influence, im sorry if you did not like the analogy, or that this concept does not work for you.


It is not anymore.

Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, Syria ... All the horrible governements that only deserve to be neutralized.
At least i would expect them to not interfer, but they simply can't stop.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Feb 3 2023 11:38am
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Quote (Meanwhile @ Feb 3 2023 05:36pm)
It is not anymore.


it really is...thats the whole point of this war lol, and to expand the point, unlike poland, which is NOT in russia's sphere of influence (which is why they are not invading poland).

This post was edited by ferdia on Feb 3 2023 11:39am
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Quote (ferdia @ Feb 3 2023 06:27pm)
this is your opinion, this is also a common widespread opinion. i am not ignoring this viewpoint, i just dont share it. The idea of Ukraine first, eastern europe next - where is this logic coming from ?
remember putin has been in power for decades now. do you not question, why now and not before 2014 ?


no he got only one sentence on his mouth " RUSSIA is the enemy"

he seems to be a simple mind who listened too much his old grandpa wo told him everytime that russia communist are evil. Now he pass his life to search and post every news he found ( only news against russia ofc ).
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Quote (ferdia @ 3 Feb 2023 18:37)
it really is...thats the whole point of this war lol, and to expand the point, unlike poland, which is NOT in russia's sphere of influence.


The INVASION is happening because Urkaine refused to submit to the russian mafioso regime. Georgia tried but got massacred, Chechnya too: -massacred- . Ukraine is a bigger piece... Seems less easy...



This post was edited by Meanwhile on Feb 3 2023 11:45am
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